I respect the view that sound crypto requires skeptical review and testing outside closed rooms. Conspiracies live or die by the same process. Crypto would die if there was no belief in conspiracies. Conspiracy theory drives the cypherpunk agenda, I surmised from the welcoming statement. Note the caution about "S1," and any other crypto offering. Perry's sharp statements on the urgent need for crypto deployment are motivated, it seems to me, by a view of a believable, if not wholly proveable, threat that crypto is believed to counter. I choose to believe him; Orlin's got my skeptical interest -- put up or shut up -- and he's not out of line. But who knows more than what we read in the conspiracy- driven media and hear from our respected leaders? Take your pick of them, or believe your own home-grown, they're unavoidable, on cypherpunks or elsewhere -- they're the crippling religion of the ages. My mouth waters to hear the latest conspiracies about cypherpunks' evil spread of demon crypto.