I also have had no luck getting a beta client from digicash. I "registered" through their WWW forms page, and got no response for about a month. Then they sent me mail saying that they would be sending a client, but that they were unrolling it in stages. That was about a month ago. Perhaps this means I will get my client soon. This does not speak well for digicash. If they were not ready to beta their stuff, they should not have announced it. As it is, it makes them look like a flake. BTW, I am beginning to amass NexusBucks. I would _really_ like to buy something with them, just to prove their viability. They are exchangable 1-for-1 for US$, but only in terms of services on Sameer's system. If anyone has a t-shirt or somehting similar that they'd like to sell, please let me know. Perhaps we should make the Cypherpunks motto a bit less ambitious. Instead of "Cypherpunks write code," how about merely "Cypherpunks use tools." Raph