-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
Derek Atkins writes:
I disagree. While I can honestly say that I don't like most Detweiler posts, I feel that he is showing us the possibility of how remailers can (and are) being abused. I think censorship is the wrong answer. I think there needs to be some accountability, even if it is anonymous accountability.
It's really not censorship for Hal or any other remailer operator to say _his_ machines, accounts, reputation, etc., will be used to mail death threats to whitehouse.gov, for example, or mailbombs to newsgroups and mailing lists.
While it is not censorship as such, it rather seems against our stated goals as cypherpunks to advocate such filtering...not because of what it blocks from our own sites, but it _does_ affect those downstream. To give an example of why this is important, last July (June?) the University of Canterbury in Christchurch New Zealand began filtering all alt.sex.* newspostings from their site. Well this in itself was perhaps harmless, the topology of NZ's corner of the net is such that as a result _all_ net-sites in the entire of NZ's South Island lost these newsgroups. While I'm not saying that the University were outside of their rights, we must keep the wider issues in view at all times. Another key point is that we not let our own personal feelings interfere with our political actions. I'm sure most of us here were offended by the suggestions in the heat of the anonymity debate that all anonymous postings to newsgroups be killed...yet here are cypherpunks advocating the filtering of all Detweiler and Detweiler-seeming posts. Sure, the guy's a prick, but should we let him turn us into fascists? Jim Wise wisej@acf4.nyu.edu jaw7254@acfcluster.nyu.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLWGRGTS8O1DgkhNpAQGr7AP7BLMG7DQa85fgqN2XKQalmxAZjjnsT+RT b+i1d3C+Lr8lYu4DAidXF1aIoCdpDoyQieEioKiWFe51GLPn8CxjlREZH0v3jmWe B6i1d0bXcvWEH/iZdo6RKW4L4FZ+ri4EsDBSHFk3Zj3IxAWmKYTGGKcqtN/mmFaJ h9rnWul2XxU= =47Ss -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----