Sorry about forwarding this long message but I thought it would be something interesting to read. I have no idea if anyone has seen this before.. But this so you know what is currently happening now. FYI, who ever made this post is not known at this time. Jeremy Cooper sent it to me and he must have found it on a mailing list for his class. The person who found it got it off the NirvanaNet. I e-mailed him and he thought it was joke. I then looked a bit closer and found that the earliest forwarder of this Chuck Zeps, who posted it on the USENET... Anyway the message he sent me is at the end of this message. If anyone has any ideas or comments about it, please send them. There are BBS numbers from the mailer taglines used by local BBSes. I'm sure if I give one of them a call I can figure out who wrote it originally.... Happy reading!!! ________________________________________ To: /mail/ac/ac859 Msg #: 1757 Size: 4757/100 From: jeremy@crl.com (Jeremy Cooper) On: 06/15/94 22:07 Subject: a post about Electronic security (fwd) oh oh _ . _ ___ _ . _ ===-|)/\\/|V|/\/\ (_)/_\|_|\_/(_)/_\|_| Stop by for an excursion into the-=== ===-|)||| | |\/\/ mud.crl.com 8888 (_) Virtual Bay Area! -=== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:26:43 PDT From: The Great Googly-Moogly <johansen@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu> To: cyberspace/Humanities class list <cyberspace/Humanities@sfsu.edu> Subject: a post about Electronic security the following was found on NirvanaNet: D Area: ENCRYPT DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Msg#: 350 Date: 06-13-94 11:57 From: Black Knight Read: Yes Replied: No To: All Mark: Subj: Telco Spying ! DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Thought y'all might find this of intrest. From: chuck.zeps@dt-can.com (Chuck Zeps) Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Telco Spying ! Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 09:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <fe.966.2106.0NCAB9D8@dt-can.com> Organization: Data Tech Canada - (519) 473-7685 *** Telco Snooping ? *** ======================================================================== As someone involved in the telephone industry on the level of security and data integrity... I would like to inform everyone that uses modems and/or are bbs operators of some information. The first thing that everyone that uses a modem should know is that every time you fire up your modem your activating monitoring equipment somewhere in the U.S. I have worked for several large telephone networks that routinely monitor and reroute modem and fax transmissions through devices that allow them to view what is being transmitted and even decodes encrypted data and fax packets used by major corporations and governmental agencies. This is allowed under the heading of "Maintenance Monitoring" and may be continued for up to 6 months without the need of any legal paperwork being generated. Under an obscure pre-WWII ruling by the agency that is now the FCC... "No information may be encoded or transmitted over PUBLIC or PRIVATE forms of telephony or radio with the exception of those agencies involved in the National Security" a further designation goes on to say "with the exception of the MORSE system of 'transmittal', any communication that is not interpretable by the human ear is forbidden and unlawful." The information gathered goes to 3 seperate database facilities...1 is codenamed Diana and is located in Brussels, the 2nd is named Fredrick and is located somewhere in Malaysia, the 3rd is named Elizabeth and is located in Boulder, Colorado. The information stored in these systems is accessable by the US Government, Interpol, Scotland Yard and various other such agencies. Your credit rating is also affected by your modem usage... if you ever get a copy of your credit history and find a listing that has HN06443 <--= this is a negative risk rating. or a code 87AT4 <---= an even more negative risk rating.... these will usually have no description on them... and if you inquire about them they will tell you that it just comes from the system that way. I am currently working for another major carrier as a consultant and have been able to watch these systems operate...at one unnamed long distance carrier here in Columbus Ohio in their NCC, Network Control Center, you can see several rows of computer terminals which have approximately 30 to 40 separate windows in each... these windows have data transmissions that are being monitored... banks of 9 track tapes are going constantly to record everything. Everyone should realize that even if a sysop posts a disclaimer at the beginning of his bbs about no access to governmental agencies or law enforcement...that it isn't worth the time it takes to type it in... looking forward to hearing reactions to this. -!- * SLMR 2.0 * * My Castle BBS 614-236-4015 10pm to 10am M-F 6pm-6pm S -!- QMPro 1.52 Clinton - All hope abandon, ye who voted for a Communist - chuck.zeps@dt-can.com =END= ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::c.zeps@genie.geis.com:::NsAc4sEmTeXpEtNbOmBcLiNtOnSsDeAbAtF::: :::CDN.Assn.Rocketry S155::kGbGrUcSiSrCmPdOdsPeTzNaZiJeWmOsSaD::: :::VE3SMN:::NRA Member:::::@8F@CoCaMeXcArTeLgOvDoPeBuShMeNaGuN::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: --- ~ TNet 3.90 w USENET| The Obelisk BBS | London, Ont.| 519.6790021 -!- * Freddie 1.2.5 * "It's art, things have to die"-Nora Maki, what a woman -!- WM v3.10/93-0082 ! Origin: Burn This Flag BBS - San Jose, CA - 408/363-9766 (9:900/6) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 06:12:00 -0400 From: Chuck Zeps <chuck.zeps@dt-can.com> To: s009amf@discover.wright.edu Subject: (none) Aaron, the "telco" post was a repost of data I got from an import of stuff from the Atlanta area. I regretfuly removed the header data and most people thought *I* wrote it when I reposted it. It was posted to another bbs down there ( data for that one is just above my .sig if you look ). The post was interesting as the methods used are substancially correct and this type of thing does occur up here. I dunno about banks of monitors for *everything* in real-time, but much targeted traffic can be viewed that way ( HP data monitors hooked to archival taping decks). You might call the BBS listed and enquire further if curious ... Regards, Chuck