From: Censored Girls Anonymous <carolb@barton.spring.com> 1. You have what I want or need. You have a _service_ I want to use. 8. Welcome to the world of data "coatchecking". "Data coatchecking" certainly has different connotations than "data haven". I think for marketing purposes, the name "data haven" is inaccurate. A data haven, one might expect, has semantic structure to it. Offsite storage is much less than a data haven; it's much more like a remote file system. Using the word "haven" to refer to a remote storage facility removes the connotation of ordinary usage, which, as we all know is a perfectly upright, normal, and (for those in the USA) a downright Capital-A _American_ thing to do. From the moment the data leaves their hands, until I return it, they have no right, nor I no obligation, to divulge anything about it. You don't want the operator of a remote storage facility revealing links about usage patterns of individuals, but as far as the data itself goes, there's no reason it couldn't be made public (there's also no good reason _to_ make it public, either). Someone who sends plaintext to a remote site is foolish. Eric