Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@math.uiuc.edu> writes:
"Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com> writes:
1. "Spam cancellers" are not generally news admins. They are plain old users who get kicked off of their ISPs for forging cancels. For examples, see Net.Scum pages of Rick Buchanan, David Ritz, et al.
Many spam cancellers are news admins. Most of the major ones are admins, in fact - Chris Lewis, JEM, etc.
You're splitting hairs. One very unpleasant cancel-forger, Jan Isley, was the admin of a site where he was also the sole user. When I posted to usenet the expose's of jan's net-abuse (forged cancels) and asked everyone to complain to his upstream site (Emory University), Jan Isley forged cancels for 6 of my articles claiming that I "advocate harrassment of uninvolved third parties". Well, the third parties got complaints anyway and pulled jan's plug in no time. :-) For the archetypal "spam canceller", please examine Tim Brown's net.Scum page at http://www.netscum.net/brownt0.html when that site is up.
2. Once a cancel-forger builds a "reputation" as a "spam canceller", s/he often diversifies into "retromodetration" - forgng cancels for singly-postd articles whose contents they don't like and claiming that they were "spam". For examples, see the Net.Scum pages for Guy Macon (the retromoderator on soc.religion.quaker), Chris Lewis, et al.
This rarely happens, actually, and such situations are quickly slapped down as soon as they're spotted.
The two examples Dimitri gives, of course, are major misrepresentations.
Who's misrepresenting what, Tim? Chris Lewis has a 'bot that forges cancels for multi-posted articles. Chris Lewis forges cancels by hand for articles that are critical of him (claiming that they're "spam"), for articles that quote his earlier articles (claiming that they violatehis copyright), posts numerous lies about me (which you yourself partialy refutes the other day). Tim Brown, a similar "spam canceller", forges cancels for "spam" as well as articles that make fun of his newsletter, "The Last Word". Etc, etc - take a look at www.netscum.net for numerous other examples. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps