why is it that half the people who post here work for the government or big companies that are doing governments bidding (rand.org (which is part of the the nsa!) att.com (makers of the clipper chip) mit (which onwns rsa) netscape etc etc) what makes me wonder isnt so much that theyre here but that they post socalled reasonable stuff that supports the the government line. like when these people report on what the nsa guy says at the crypto convention as if were supposed to take it seriously and these people who say clipper is good enough no back doors. and then everyone takes this crap seriously. obviously the government thinks there are some things we shouldnt think about ourselves. and then someone comes along and says theyve thought about it already and we should just go mind our own biz. arent we supposed to be cypherPUNKS? than why do we need these people to think for us? honest replies only please. i dont mean to flame but this really bothers me. we should maybe think about a closed list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi.