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People should learn when to yield sometimes....
I think Tim is getting a bad rap here. It's one thing to make a mail system that exchanges secure mail, or allows you to put pictures in it, or whatever, and it's another thing altogether to make a mail system which does all of those things and which can actually communicate with the many millions of people out in the real world. It's easy to say, "if everyone listened to me, and did things my way, we'd have all these new features." That may be true, but it's not going to happen. Even the existence of a reasonably well-accepted standard like MIME won't ensure success. What's a standard compared to a huge base of installed software? As influential as Tim is, it doesn't matter whether he embraces MIME or not. If he converted tonight, there'd still be millions of people who feel the way he felt this morning. Getting Tim to capitulate isn't going to solve the problem. The sociology and politics of evolving standards is an important issue on the net, and it seems to me that things are a little more complicated than some posters are admitting. If cypherpunks are going to have an influence on how things turn out, we're going to have to come to terms with the issues Tim has been raising. == Alex Strasheim | finger astrashe@nyx.cs.du.edu alex@omaha.com | for my PGP 2.6.1. public key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLvEkYBEpP7+baaPtAQFYVwQAlkVMN0setRaiLvPzyITrzGp5/W7la4Ql 8PjLcnP+yIAmV2BmCjDmC0tEK2tc/JBgqMYvrcPBNGIhaD3oGEn/9YTaZuyCAjGB KdrHLA7i4dEn0AQCZdMsdVJ025hBO8/IYbBqt+M5LnXF4XTuBlUlqNyY+7/upC56 jyfUkEVAMfQ= =LXyA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----