At 11:41 AM 8/27/94 -0700, Eric Hughes wrote:
Why does everyone think that the law must immediately be invoked when double spending is detected?
It's obvious I gave that impression. I regret the error. Anybody who bounces digital cash accidentally (in most accidental cases that I can imagine) isn't to blame, especially if software is at fault. That's equivalent (economically) to the bank thinking that a person's checking account has less money in it than the depositor put there. It's safe to see that an underwriter could make up losses if they're made in this fashion on software they certify, for instance. However, there is a special case in checking where someone thinks that they've the money, and they don't really. There is probably an analog to this in a digital cash transaction and I can't think of it at the moment. The spender should be held liable for something like that, at any rate. If someone deliberately double (or million) spends, then they should get busted for fraud. Period. As protocols and software gets "burned in", multiple spending should happen less and less, except when people do it in purpose. When that happens, put 'em in the airlock. ;-).
One solution is clear and direct: charge for each redemption attempt. In that situation, multiple attempts get rejected, and the issuer is recompensed for the attempt. No morality need be invoked.
I agree. This solution is hard to remember in the heat of argument, but it's quite simple. I have argued elsewhere that there are all sorts of ways to catch multiple spenders who do it on purpose, but if there's a way to prevent it in the first place, in a financial manner, that's even better. I got sat on about this early on over on www-buyinfo, and my response there was, catch them using plain old police work, and book them for fraud. There has been significant discussion here and there about the use of governmental entities to enforce fraud laws when people get ripped off in a double spending scam, but for the time being I still think that this is the way to go.
Are there any non-proprietary, public sources of information on these legal and regulatory research efforts? Are there archives of the c'punks traffic on this subject that I can look at?
The research efforts are basically my own, Hal's, and Perry's. There is no reference other than back traffic, which others can provide.
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