On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 20:57:32 -0400 From: Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com> To: starrd <starrd@iia2.org> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: ON OFF-TOPIC
starrd writes:
On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Was this really needed?
Yes, it is my bet that there are some patriots in this list.
Pardon, but I don't care. There are also several socialists on this list. Shall I help them out by posting a long tract on the labor theory of value? There are several religious christians here. Shall we begin to discuss the divinity of Jesus? There are also some Jews here -- we could have a bunch of religious debates, and the atheists could kick in some mud, too. There are lots of folks here who wear shoes -- perhaps we could discuss the merits of different brands.
Nope. but the patriots & the cyPHerpunks share a common goal, and belief that it is none of the government's business what we think or want to share with our computers.
The desire to protect one's privacy is a very "patriot" thiung to want to do.
But this isn't a list for "patriot"s.
Yes it is. This list is for anyone who wants to preserve their privacy, but I do understand what you really meant. :-^)
CyPherpunks appears to be a lot of peole who are against big brother government, and quite probably for restoring the constitution...am I right?
Cypherpunks is a list for people interested in cryptography and its impact on privacy, law, society, etc. It is not a list for people to discuss libertarianism, socialism, constitutionalism, whether the president has just flown over you ranch in a black helicopter, whether the CIA was responsible for brainwashing your pet rat Algernon, whether David Koresh was the messiah, or how many members of the Federal Protective Service it takes to change a paper shredder.
Agreed
There are lots of places to discuss these topics on the net. There is only Cypherpunks for discussing the overall impact of cryptography on society, and this is a fairly good place to discuss crypto algorithms and the like because it is (amazingly) fairly high s/n compared to, say, sci.crypt. Please help out by not polluting one of the few places to discuss these issues with stuff you can talk about anywhere.
Again, I agree with you Perry. In fact on a crypto-note [is that a word?] I would enjoy some discussion on SecDrv 1.4....anyone wanna take about it v. PGP? [is it as secure as PGP?] ||||||||||||email address: starrd@iia2.org or starrd@cinenet.net||||||||||| | Creator of the original | Get paid to upload | | Patriot's Archives \ shareware to BBSes and | | ftp: iia.org /pub/users/patriot \_____ the Internet! | | ftp: wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/msdos_uploads/patriot\ Get file: | | For index of available files: descript.ion \ uploader.zip | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzAN3FwAAAEEAOgWK9QJo3LIPXC+C/RHE+nmlddXPthC0hgLL7oKg7WPjYgk LrX7j0eUmb5e6t2sm/PkJ1wjk839fqjUmRPLD0mhPX6KsMB0DoecYbCKLrNUY1gP 7DZijj9e7fuPaHqhuY7K5rGjN4po4ZxGhEPQv32IjQLSza9nbU05aMuMG71tAAUR tB9EYXZpZCBXIFN0YXJyIDxzdGFycmRAaWlhMi5vcmc+iQCVAwUQMCnJQEY2REVK Mit9AQG9AAQAps4lKzeQ/OQyXbvxG4b5wWsvHEK/K+1L/tfG0+EmlEsDARaN2pBD cCslIKHjBa8al2BaTSsNjCUSHMgd+IWRp+nw2XJt/lRqpvTN5m7pPNAEQbSgCGwf 9kJ1IDPMokOw9XXAuGAqMQi9HogepNxp7JOdNphcJulHf9XbyCy/sig= =0Tlq -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----