---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 21:17:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Sal Denaro <sal@panix.com> To: Arsen Ray Arachelian <rarachel@prism.poly.edu> Subject: Re: Digital Telephony bill, August 1 draft (fwd)
From panix!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!cindy.stanford.edu!user Thu Aug 4 21:03:35 1994 Path: panix!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!cindy.stanford.edu!user From: rogo@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.powerpc Subject: Re: IBM Power-PC future
In article <issa.775452041@cwis>, issa@cwis.unomaha.edu (Issa El-Hazin) wrote:
* OS/2 and NT. Microsoft's Windows NT will probably become the OS of choice for the IBM PPS's and the Intel PCI local-bus will be the only bus offered with IBM's new machines. Now wasn't a main idea with the new architecture is to compete/get ride of the MS/Intel dominance so IBM/Apple can start making a good buck again! OS/2 for the PowerPC (previously known as WorkPlace OS) keeps on getting delayed and when it's finally released, I don't think it will compete with Windows NT 3.5. Beside being a very robust OS, NT is also available for Intel, MIPS, DECs, and other workstations and its' been out for a while.
Your chip-mania is lunacy... Let's try a new lens... Q2,'95, PPC 604 in machines, chip costs around $400 at 100MHz. Q4,'95 P6 in machines, chip costs around $1100 at 133MHz. PPC 604 matches P6 performance (or betters it) with 133MHz and 150MHz versions. 100MHz version is $250. Developers routinely recompiled Win32 apps for PPC. PPC 620 shipping in quantity. Initial price, $999. AMD K5 variants and Cyrix M1 variants begin really annoying Intel by matching all P5 performance points with lower prices. The ensuing price war begins chopping away something from Intel's gargantuan profits. Q1,'96 P6 machines now available in quantity. Few willing to pay the high price. Really fast P5s keep those not looking for change quite happy. Some, looking for price/performance, begin thinking about PPC machines. Q2,'96 PPC620 machines ship. Faster 604s, P5s, P6s, abound. Nothing can touch 620 in the PC marketplace. Machines expensive. PPC604 chip price now at about $150. P6 at about $750. Q4,'96 Word of the PowerPC 800 series just swept Comdex (IBM and Moto did a big show on the new series). Systems should begin appearing in 12-18 months. Intel cloners becoming really annoying. IBM, making money selling PPC systems, also has figured out what Intel already knows: you can make more money selling whole logic boards to PC cloners rather than just chips. Using Cyrix technology, they are cutting deeper into the P5-class x86 business. Intel/HP briefing ignored. Who cares about a chip coming out in two years? Gateway and Dell merge but keep identities separate. HP again considers buying Apple. Q2,'97 Intel fights back with much cheaper P6s and much faster ones. First PPC 800 series silicon is becoming available. Q4,'97 PPC running 800 SPECint. Q2,'98 Intel/HP first silicon using VLIW technology. Compatible with existing x86 binaries. Intel encouraging ISVs to write to the "native mode" of the new chips, though. That was fun.... IBM's PPCs will have preemption, threads, telephony, video, etc. (as soon as they ship). Macs will have threads, telephony, video, etc. (as soon as 7.5 ships). I don't think lack of preemption will kill, or even severely wound, Apple's efforts to keep -- and perhaps increase -- its market share. Also, that PnP stuff and multimedia will still be better on Macs (because they've always been plug and play and because QuickTime is really going to win the race over Video for Windows -- call Bell Atlantic if you disagree). *** should have been posted to alt.prose :> sal@panix.com Yes, I use PGP. Salvatore Denaro Live fast, Die young, Hack C++ My heart is broke/but I have some glue Sex, Drugs and Cryptography. Help me inhale/and mend it with you