It still seems to me that the spoofing issue has been oversimplified: "Hey, it's a fact of life. Accept it." "We're cypherpunks. We have a little fun once in a while. Lighten up!" "Spoofing and deception are not the same." Then Boxx gets dinged for using spoofs, and Detweiler gets dinged for objecting to them. Then May comes out with a G-rated spoof, and everyone (almost) has a chuckle. But I think the issue is too sticky to pass off with flames and grins. As I see it, the spoofing touches on one of the basic opportunities/dilemmas of the NET: anonymity versus responsibility. We can say things behind the cover of ascii that we wouldn't dare try IRL. So some folks do it. You can explore gender bending, being an asshole, etc. -- and no one has to know. Good therapy? Food for the exploring mind? Yeah, maybe. But also -- Good for undermining credibility. Someone spoofs in a letter from William Gibson during a heated discussion of Cyberpunk. It LOOKS plausible. No one on the list knows Gibson personally. Do you take it at face value, or pass it off as a possible spoof? Folks, that ain't spoofing: it's impersonation. It's a form of lying. No harm done? Ask Gibson if he thinks so. Ask yourself if you would. Situation #2: someone writes in a bunch of outrageous opinions and puts YOUR name in the sender slot and fires the mess of to the cypherpunks list. What are you going to do about it? Quickly post a denial, no doubt. But tell me you wouldn't feel furious. Someone has used anonymity to misrepresent you. In essence, to lie about you in an ingenious way made possible by a combo of human nature and the structure of the NET. So: You want to post/pose as *HeAvYd00d* -- hey, go right ahead. That's your biz, and I can use a laugh (the whole scheme of building up an anonymous rep seems like juvenile fantasy or disguised cowardice, but chacun a son gout). You want to pose as William Gibson? I've got a problem with that -- and so do you, if the real WG finds out. You want to pose as someone else on this list? Well, do YOU have a problem with that?