On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, root wrote:
As to data havens being dangerous to run...I don't know. At the recent HoHoCon there was a long discussion 'bout networks hidden within networks that was very intriguing. If Doug Barnes is reading this he may be willing to reiterate some of the talk. I do know that at the moment my partners and myself are looking at remailer software running under Linux and data havens are something that we have discussed. I personaly see data havens as a repository for information that is beyond the keen of governments to regulate. This is the key point to me. Not whether it is industrial secrets, military secrets, or .gif's that jr. can get his rocks off over.
This is something I have been doing seom writing on lately, teh idea of nets on top of nets, the almost fractal nature of networking of this scale and horizontal nature on the INternet. A DatHaven, like I mentioned in another post, is a vauge name, it could be some hacker kid with a lot of space on his HD and a fast modem who hacks the local univeristy and installes term, riggin his term connection to allow FTP connections, or telnet connections, or it oculd be someone with a decent size dinvestor backing him up as he gets a site linked ot teh net from some Carribean Island, who collects and intercepts TRW and Equifax like data on credit transactions and shit like that, selling it to those about to invest in soemone or something and want more info on it. OR maybe it's an elaborate set-up of mail aliases thru remailer chains and clearing stations that lead to data safe deposit boxes, where someone can leave a large amount of date anon, and then allow osmeone else to retrieve it anon also. With suffiecient planning, coding and equipment a datahaven could perform almost all the ideas that Tim came up with in his cyphernomicon, from selling crdit info, to a data drop box, to a holding agent for anon transactions(can't remember proper term). damn I wish I could have made it to HoHoCon.