Hiyas, I've been discussing this with my friend who came up with the idea, and he said that if anyone wants to discuss this whole concept with him, feel free, he just doesn't have a huge mailbox, so he hasn't subscribed to the list. His address is: jon@werple.apana.org.au mention 'punk.net' which is his term for the concept. I prefer it to the current subject of 'spread spectrum nets' or whatever is the current vogue. Also, anyone know how to set up aliases under elm? Or is the list in general happy with this discussion taking place under the aegis of cypherpunks@toad.com ???? I'd set up an alias file under elm to handle this, and then we could boot off cypherpunk (maybe post a weekly digest or something) but the man page for elm is missing on this site (derrr...) Dwayne. (Dwayne Jones-Evans IRC: ddraig ) ( SCA: Cynon Yscolan ap Myrddin, Stormhold, Lochac, West) PGP public key available. finger me. be gentle. internet---> hiscdcj@lux.latrobe.edu.au