At 2:27 AM 12/8/95, sameer wrote:
You mean if you give me your key the police can get it from me without a warrant? What if I don't want to give it up, and you don't? How would the police get it without a warrant?
Yes. Unless it could be shown there their was an expactation of privacy in the transfer, or that there was an understanding that you intended this to be a confidential matter. Or in the alternative, that the
I do not understand.
Alice has Alice gives Bob her key. Cop wants Alice's key. Cop tells Bob "I want Alice's key, you need to give it to me. I don't have a warrant."
How is this different from Bob has key. Cop want's Bob's key. Cop tells Bob "I want your key, you need to give it to me. I don't have a warrant."
sheesh, what a fucked up legal system. ^^^^^^^^^
EXON WARNING! This message has just exposed the author, the toad.com system, and all those who pass it on to fines of not less than $10,000! But I share Sameer's confusion. If cops show up at my door, they must, it seems to me, present proper warrants before they can _enter_ my premises, or _search_ my premises. Something given to me, whether a letter, a key, a photo, etc., is essentially *my property* and may not simply be taken away from without due process. I hope Black Unicorn is incorrect in his point. --Tim Views here are not the views of my Internet Service Provider or Government. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."