I have found the following few procmail rules useful: ^TOcypherpunks-announce cypher-announce :2: ^TOcypherpunks@toad.com ^From:.*(tcmay@netcom.com|rjc@gnu.ai.mit.edu|frissell@panix.com|habs@warwick.com|hfinney@shell.portal.com|cfrye@ciis.mitre.org|whitaker@dpair.csd.sgi.com|hughes@ah.com|sameer@soda.berkeley.edu|ebrandt@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu|sandfort@crl.com|collins@newton.apple.com|lefty@apple.com|unicorn@access.digex.net|warlord@athena.mit.edu|gtoal@an-teallach.com|cdodhner@indirect.com|klbarrus@owlnet.rice.edu|nate@VIS.ColoState.EDU|hugh@toad.com|perry@imsi.com) cypher :: ^TOcypherpunks@toad.com noisy/cypher I haven't had any time to dip into noisy/cypher (well not much.. I'm dipping into it right now) lately so I'm probably missing some very valuable people. But I have found the preceding list to create a mailbox with essentially 90-95% signal. -- sameer Voice: 510-841-2014 Network Administrator Pager: 510-321-1014 Community ConneXion: The NEXUS-Berkeley Dialin: 510-841-0909 http://www.c2.org (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.org