On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Jeff Weinstein wrote:
Black Unicorn wrote:
I just get sick of those who tout themselves as Experts in Software Munitions and are in fact are merely in it for the cash. In it for the cash is just fine. Just don't tell me later you aren't.
Can't I be a supporter of strong crypto, and also be in it for the money? Many people here make good money off of crypto related work. If I'm asked to implement GAK in a situation where it is not mandated by law, I won't do it.
You can be a supporter of strong crypto, and be in it for the money. I do not believe you can be a supporter of strong crypto and not fight GAK tooth and nail, which I just don't see you doing. Sure, you will obey the law, but will you do anything to influence it's development. All insult and prodding aside, really ask yourself this. You've been GIFTED with a position of immense political power and a strong and virbrant voice. Why aren't you using it? I know the answer because I've talked to the attornies. Do YOU know it?
I read the Jim Clark statement that Jeff forwarded. It seemed noncomittal on the actual issue of whether Netscape will build a U.S.-supported GAK (as opposed to offering GAK for the Iraqis or French). I await with interest the clarification of the anti-GAK stance that Jeff alluded to.
I believe you got it with:
"If the law requires GAK, then I believe that we will implement it rather than just disable encryption."
Tim was referring to the position statement against GAK that we will be releasing before the NIST meeting next week.
I think it's clear what you will say at NIST, and exactly what is has to do with Netscape's real position on the issue.
Note that the phrase is entirely ambigious on whether this refers to the law requiring GAK for export, or export AND domestic sales. Netscape will install GAK into whatever will increase its sales. I understand and respect this position in the context of a company which needs badly to start raking in some profits.
What I meant, and have said in other places, is that if it is legal to ship a product without GAK for use inside the US, or anywhere else, I believe we will do it, because that is what our customers want.
What you have ignored, and ignored in other places, is the fact the Netscape has a good deal of clout today. If you were really for strong crypto, why aren't you using it, why isn't Netscape using it, to cripple GAK, and entirely doable endeavor, rather than just seeking some redundant 'clarification' of the current law, (which even it it's most mild intrepretation is below the threshold of acceptable to any strong crypto advocate)? More to the point, why are you telling us what a strong crypto supporter you are instead of SHOWING us?
The title "Software Munitions Expert" or similar such should probably be changed to "GAK marketing expert" however.
I'm sorry my dig at the ITAR does not ammuse you.
I find it very amusing and clever. I just don't think it's a title you deserve. Your suggested
replacement would not be appropriate since I don't support GAK (I believe that it is one of the most evil things any government could do to its citizens),
So let's see some energy and action that supports that position. Talk is cheap. and I'm not in marketing. You missed your calling. You've got Mr. Weinstein hanging on your every word.
--Jeff
-- Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist Netscape Communication Corporation jsw@netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw Any opinions expressed above are mine.
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