I remember a while back (on this list I think) there was some discussion of a case in which it was ruled that the cops in some instance didn't need a warrent to intercept (or weren't in violation of ECPA?) a cordless phone phone call because the user didn't have the same "expectation of privacy" as they would with a normal phone... it seems to me the end judgement was that if the equipment you're using is easy enough to listen in on, then you can't complain if they do so. Fast-forward a few years to when the Digital Telephony Act and clippper chips have been mass deployed... does someone talking on a clipper phone over a DTA-compliant network have enough of an 'expectation of privacy' to require a warrent for intercepts? Happy Hunting, -Chris. ______________________________________________________________________________ Christian Douglas Odhner | "The NSA can have my secret key when they pry cdodhner@indirect.com | it from my cold, dead, hands... But they shall pgp 2.3 public key by finger | NEVER have the password it's encrypted with!" cypherpunks WOw dCD Traskcom Team Stupid Key fingerprint = 58 62 A2 84 FD 4F 56 38 82 69 6F 08 E4 F1 79 11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------