"Cypherpunks Hack Hardware" It seems logical that when the ClipperPhones come out, they will have some kind of vocoder chip in them. (I doubt the (co)decoding will be implemented on the Clipper chip itself) If so, cypherpunks can take advantage of this situation. By hacking up a daugherboard, the phone's vocoder/modem/sampler can be exploited and interfaced to a PC (possibility via something as simple as a null modem cable or centronics). After that, the software hackers can do their job. If the ClipperPhone becomes popular and the daughterboard is cheap to build ($25-50), it would serve as a massive hardware platform for cypherpunks phone software. The alternative is to produce our own vocoder/sampler boards, but I doubt we could approach the economy of scale that AT&T can, plus we get to ride on the back of their advertising/marketing by having them sell the basic hardware. (then we just release a hack for it) What do you think? -Ray -- Ray Cromwell | Engineering is the implementation of science; -- -- EE/Math Student | politics is the implementation of faith. -- -- rjc@gnu.ai.mit.edu | - Zetetic Commentaries --