-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- regarding ranking military personnel and/or prosecuters who were in favour of encryption and anti-GAK, the key issue is former -while in rank or in the DOJ they follow the party line --and they _know_ what the abuses are. I know more than a few, but they a) wont talk about it, b) are ex-spooks (if there is such a thing), and c) item 'b' makes them not good testimonials anyway. just get a list of generals retiring in the last 5 years from the Congressional record since there is a rank pension retirement requirement --survey. likewise, Bill Clinton fired every single on of the U.S. prosecuting attorneys when he took office in 1993; same thing: survey 'em. some career DOJ types who were pretty pissed and not likely to view anything Bubba and F{ree,uck} are pushing with approval. bet you come up with some positive answers. if nothing else you might get some quotes; and some the retired generals were pretty crusty. check the man who retired as head of the army 160th deep black spec ops group --swore in public, his troops never wore regulation, beards, etc. and I think General George S. Patton IV retired a couple years ago with at least 2, maybe 3 stars. they're out there; get a grunt to get on with the research. on or about 971016:1200 Stanton McCandlish <mech@eff.org> was purported to have expostulated to perpetuate an opinion: #This year I recall seeing 1 former prosecutor saying that widespread #encryption was good and/or that GAK was bad, and 1 military or former military #person of fairly high status saying that GAK was bad. Circa 1994-5 I also #recall a military or retired miltiary person of rank reporting that very #widespread crypto would be a boost to national security. We could really use #these people's, and similar people's, words in pro-crypto efforts. #Unfortunately, disk problems a while back cost me most of my old mail, #including all of these saved items. If anyone has them and/or knows who these #people are, please let me know. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNErSurR8UA6T6u61AQGkNQH6AlxB6oJ9OJa2dtSB07jCXVZZdUIvdntR plzqvee5RGCtjZaqrc8VksmunVaMh3FOHpHGJW+rcwSoMK0Qs9ASnQ== =OAtn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----