Whenever Perry Metzger defends an opinion of his well, somebody whines. Whenever Perry Metzger disagrees with someone's arguments, someone else crys "unfair! He's using his WITS on me!" Whenever Perry Metzger has to stop and demonstrate something as simple as arithmetic to end an argument, someone cries "foul! sarcasm! Hey, he's not playing nice!" Y'all need to develop slightly thicker skins. Perry's efforts could serve to raise the thought level of other posters to this list, if they'd stop reacting to each prod with an irritated swipe back at the prodder. I like the strife on this list. Happy people getting along famously are dull. (Someone could consider adding to the cypherpunk philosophy: Cypherpunks write code, and cypherpunks are irritable.) -Bill