GAK or is it Gack!!! You know, one possible solution lies in the direction of Apple's CyberDog. It is based on OpenDoc and should be portable to windoze, I hate to say Rah told you so but... Even with all the ITAR silliness, even if on the contigincy that Apple can't provide a SSL or whatever in thier HTML part, YOU can always write your own HTML part, (its just not that complicated) in the Cyberdog environment and override the Apple CyberDog HTML part. This looks like a great opertunity for some Cypherpunks to write code, and code that people DO care about.. a CypherPunk CyberDog part to replace the Apple HTML viewer with one that has hooks for an encryption API (GSSAPI?) (lawyer types beware: This is definitely my opinion and you and I both know Apple is old enough to speak for itself.) ------------- Vinnie Moscaritolo Apple DTS Sniper "One Shot..One Kill" http://webstuff.apple.com/~vinnie/ Fingerprint = 4F A3 29 81 50 E4 04 F2 78 25 01 87 6E A2 14 6A --------------