I must admit to a certain amount of amazement to the almost universal consensus I have seen in this forum regarding censoring Detweiler's (or whomever's) Usenet postings. I believe in the remailer concept and I believe in fighting the authoritarian traceability standard that the Internet is designed around. As Xenon and others have mentioned, there are numerous ways for anyone to get around any kind of source-level filtering you might care to implement, and thus as remailer operators heading down this path, you will be put in the position of the proverbial dutch boy with a finger in the dike. The type of privacy that most of us as cypherpunks think is important and are trying to provide will necessarily leave us open to attacks such as Detweiler's. But I think privacy is more important than one more off-topic post in a random newsgroup. And if someone receives mail they don't like or don't appreciate--delete it! This medium of electronic communication is not nearly as dangerous as the current postal system, which allows you to send real mailbombs--and the postal system does NOT require return addresses. Who are these uptight schmucks writing to root and postmaster about Detweiler posts? Why on earth have they been allowed to get away with it! This is ridiculous. I think this is the battle that we must fight. The digital convergence is happening now, and unfortunately with the current authoritarian Internet model, Clipper/Capstone/Tesserae and all that nonsense--things arent't looking good for our side. Therefore, I think even more we have to stand on principle to fight this thing. (and yes, I fully intend to have my remailer running soon--I'm not just talking). Someone could send me mail now containing kiddy porn (most likely a postal inspector--they seem to be the only markey for the stuff) with no return address--should I write to the root@whitehouse.org as the ultimate arbiter since the postal service has delivered me this mail? If someone delivers mail through my remailer (which will ONLY support PGP encrypted mail) how am I responsible? Benjamin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- analyst@netcom.com mail pgp-public-keys@io.com for PGP key