Yeah but if NSA went Cypherpunks, what would be the new PC dogma - the current San Fransisco trendlines? If you aren't a Sensitive Guy who'd rather re-read Hillary's speech at the Beijing Women's Conference, than watch the jittering cheerleaders on Monday Night Football - there goes your promotion! Not to shatter your illusions boys, but there's a school of thought back here East of the Rockies that the whole shebang south of Redding should be written off after the next Big One - no taxpayer dollars spent _at all_. Commit American Imperialist Aggression against Mexico - use gunboat diplomacy to make them take California back. Only hold onto a few selected spots as Possessions. I mean, Vandenberg's on a very convenient spot for launching birds to listen in on the Beijing apparatchiks on the cellphone, running their mistresses in and out of the secret entrances of the Forbidden City faster than the JFK-era Secret Service could have kept up with. Visit the hospitality room at the next annual convention of the Old Crows Association, if you want to see proof that the electronic-warfare community, like worker-bee military types in general nowadays, comprises LOTS of folks with a rather Libertarian outlook. Alan Horowitz alanh@infi.net