-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am responding publicly to a letter I got from Nate about his wanting to know who sent the naughty mail to the subnet- managers@yuma.acns.colostate.edu. It was remailed from somewhere to qwerty, and then through Nate's remailer. For gossip's sake, I'd sure like to see what it said :-). Sorry to hear about your remailer. It's good for all of us to have such "minor" problems come up and be dealt with. I am keeping no logs except a counter. This isn't a policy, it's just a decision for now. However, if the 70 people on the list care to they can certainly contact Netcom and ask for a copy of their sendmail logs for that day. I'm sure if the mail was sent to a police address saying "Nah nah you can't find me I'm selling guns to little kids." then this would happen. I know that with my software (Hal's updated), once such a problem happens, I can just block that outgoing address. This isn't exactly a perfect solution, but I don't WANT a perfect solution. This isn't IRAQ, no matter how global the internet is. I'm not sure how to block an incoming address from say Detweiler. My model is based on the postal service. Why is e-mail supposed to be so much more accountable? With snail mail someone can send a real bomb, not a wimpy mail bomb. And yet it is perfectly legal to leave out a return address. Qwerty is a mailbox. An inanimate object. I do not like the internet. I like the postal service. You NEVER see someone like Detweiler abusing snail mail anonymity with the purpose of trying to shut down or change the policy of the US Postal Service! I think remailers should be able to strip the From line completely, but as I pointed out, this would be "frowned upon", and may not even be feasible to do vigorously. I thought the internet was anarchic and free. Fun and creative. Oops. Oh well. Again, "You ain't PUNKS, if you timidly play by the rules of others." I'm not talking illegality. In fact, I'm talking life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Insert constituion and Bill of Rights buzzwords here. I think it might be nice for the remailers to block certain outgoing address TYPES, such as "subnet-manager", but I don't know which others since I'm new around here. The information is available on Netcom's logs. It probably just points to another remailer. Welcome to the postal service. Same as it ever was. Don't blame the mailman, and especially not the mailbox. The day all mailboxes have cameras atop them and require retinal ID before they take your logged mail is the day people realize how bad it is out here in cyberspace. 8, 8 ,8 8, 8 ,8 8, 8 ,8 Yb d8b dY Yb d8b dY Yb d8b dY `8, ,8'8, ,8' `8, ,8'8, ,8' `8, ,8'8, ,8' Yb dY Yb dY Yb dY Yb dY Yb dY Yb dY `8, ,8' `8, ,8 `8, ,8' `8, ,8' `8, ,8' `8, ,8' Y8 8Y Y8 8Y Y8 8Y Y8 8Y Y8 8Y Y8 8Y YaY YaY YaY YaY YaY YaY `8' `8' O R L D `8' `8' I D E `8' `8' I R E T A P -=Xenon=- P.S. "Get Off the Internet and Write Us a Real Encryptor." Your species desires PGP to have a random data block output format. Now. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLVZ5vASzG6zrQn1RAQEEMwQAwejxfCFLdKy/jsggYfU1qANBXYe17oTt o31cMzEsFeS1cSyrexEObohZM6HKZefM34SMj5saaxn0HsR+sT3Xk2i+VIqPfBJf K17wa1jnOQDc77UYGy+f3KulNkHstCeE05D2GGA471NirwW8/YrC2tGKe4TqrFLP XEtvD9mPO2M= =huRE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----