C'punks, I am surprised that many of you, including Tim, have completely failed to examine the basic premise upon which the Unicorn suit rests. No one has called into question the dubious concept of "defamation." Black Unicorn and I have been having a rousing debate on this point in private e-mail. Maybe it's time for a little more devil's advocacy on this list. For the majority (I think) of you who consider yourselves to be "libertarians," where is TMP's violation of the principle of "non-initiation"? Don't answer to quickly, words of art have specific meanings. (Black Unicorn, this is a clue.) For those of other political stripes, what's so bad about defamation? I know most of you don't like it, but is their any philosophical or logical bases for your antipathy? S a n d y