! =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCri_Kaljundi?= wrote: ! > Sun, 1 Sep 1996 paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: ! > ! > > I don`t know what the response to this will be, I need approximately ! > > 5000 UK pounds to set up such an operation (Yes, a leased line really ! > > does cost that much in the UK) and then a monthly income of around ! > > 3000 UK pounds. ! > ! > I remember the load on anon.penet.fi was something like 7500 messages ! > daily. As for connection, you will need 64kbps line or even less in case ! > you compress the messages. The machine could be either an older Sun Sparc ! > or a PC running free Unix (Linux/FreeBSD/...) ! ! A couple of notes: 7500 messages/day is not the accurate measure of ! the load of anon.penet.fi. Remember that each messages had to ! ! 1) come in ! 2) be processed ! 3) be sent out ! 4) trigger a confirmation sent to the submitter There's plenty of room for a hacker to improve the Kleinpaste derived server, such as eliminating confirmations unless there's an error. Queing should help a great deal. ! It is not the same as a user simply receiving 7500 messages/day. ! ! If we suppose that each message creates 10KB of IP traffic, it gives us ! 75MB/day. 75mb/day is less than 1KB per second. It can be handled by a ! simple 28.8KBPS PPP connection which will still half the capacity to grow ! twice. A second dedicated phone line and a second modem can be added ! later. ! ! I suspect that UUCP as opposed to IP connection will work better, ! because UUCP gives us a unidirectional flow of data, which is much more ! efficient than modems switching direction of the transport for almost ! each IP packet. The server can que the mail for a hour or so before sending it out all at once. ! I suggest the following configuration: a IBM 486 PC with 16MB of ! RAM and 28.8 modem, running qmail instead of sendmail and Linux, How is qmail better than sendmail? The default BSD sendmail since 8.00+ has automated ident requests built in. It can easily be compiled without that default option, for greater efficiency. ! on a dedicated 28.8 PPP line. The cheapest used VGA display from ! the nearby waste dump will work just fine. Hell, any monitor should work! I'm curious about how to go about acquiring one of those huge 100+ x 100+ charactor terminals that linux supports. Is it practical, cheap and readable? ! Estimated cost: $700-1000 for the system, $50-100/month for the ! connection, and 3 hours per day to deal with mailbombing from ln -s /dev/null /usr/postmaster ln -s /dev/null /usr/abuse That should filter the mail quite nicely! :-> BTW, do y'all have a favourite Bay Area store for used or otherwise affordable unice fond equiption? Such as used Sparcs or Alphas? Legal copies of commercial unice software along with the equipment? Thanks.