I'd like to mention for the record that I don't give a pair of dingo's kidneys whether S.Boxx and L.Detweiler are the same person. Whether they are, or not, it makes no difference. I'm sure in the twisty little passages (all different) that are LD's brain, he could easily have some justification for posting as S.Boxx. Or not. What's important to me is that I have associated with both a remarkably similar reputation, such that both entities have a substantially larger than ordinary burden to overcome to convince me of anything; if either said it was raining, I would pack an umbrella *and* sunscreen. This is how a sane person deals with the current sorry state of authentication on the net, possibly accompanied by actual work participating in research and coding to remedy this sorry state. -- ---------------- /\ Douglas Barnes cman@illuminati.io.com / \ Chief Wizard (512) 448-8950 (d), 447-7866 (v) / () \ Illuminati Online metaverse.io.com 7777 /______\