Do you accept the claim that clipper is only for telephone conversations? I certainly don't believe that once a digital encryption algorithm is conveniently present in my digital network (clipper would need a digital audio hookup and modem to work with analog phone lines) I am going to abstain from using it for all my _other_ digital traffic, like email and data. Especially if everyone I want to talk uses this standard too, and there is some sort of key-exchange protocol we all use that just happens to use clipper as well. Now anyone with my escrowed key can automatically scan all my mail, bills, library requests, software purchases, video checkouts, database inquires, work that I telecomute on, etc (think about all info that flows into or out of your house!). This is considerably more that can be done now, and at a much lower than can be done today. I consider this to be the greatest lie in the Denning / Slick Willy party line on clipper. Most non-computer people do not appreciate the power of standardization to coerce users to inferior or otherwise undesirable standards, because everyone and every machine one needs to interoperate with follows the standard, foul though it is. (As a DOS developer, I am quite aware of this ;-) I wish the press would figure this out, and challenge the SW's spokespeople on this. Andy (andy@autodesk.com) speaking for self.