[Tsc] Thoughts on the OGF Technical Direction and Roadmap Document

[Andre Merzky]

Thanks David, those answers help.

Cheers, Andre.


Quoting [David Snelling] (Aug 10 2006):
> 
> Andre,
> 
> On 8 Aug 2006, at 05:21, Andre Merzky wrote:
> 
> >Hi David, all,
> >
> >I tried to come up with some productive comments and
> >suggestions for the 'strategy and roadmap' document, but
> >some points are still somewhat unclear to me.
> 
> I'll see if I can help.
> 
> >I see quite some difference between, for example, the OGSA
> >roadmap, and the TSC/OGF strategy and roadmap.  That does
> >not neccessarily mean difference in terms of content, but in
> >approach: the OGSA roadmap is made by those people who are
> >going to follow it, and who will make it a reality.
> 
> Right.
> 
> >If the TSC writes down a roadmap, who will care?  Remember,
> >OGF is a volonteer army, which will not, or only with
> >resistance, follow any advise or roadmap not created by
> >the very volonteers which are supposed to implement it.
> 
> I agree with you here. This is one of the challenges we face. The  
> overall approach that I hope will work is that we set the roadmap to  
> point in the direction we are already heading. Then the TSC roadmap  
> acts as an affirmation to the troops that they are doing the right  
> things. However, I do expect that there will be places we can  
> identify where there will need to be some rallying of the troops.  
> Here we have an important role to play. If there is some gap in the  
> overall picture that does not appear to be on the informal agenda of  
> the existing troops, then the TSC's relationship with key stake  
> holders can help to generate more effort aimed at those goals.
> 
> >So, is the TSC strategy and roadmap supposed to merely
> >_describe_ what the areas and groups plan to do anyway, or
> >is it in fact trying to do real steering, as it tries to
> >plan ahead for what _should_ be done by the areas and
> >groups?
> 
> There is also the possibility that some steering can take place.  
> Remember our volunteers are actually paid by someone. If the  
> organizations see a need then the troops might be encouraged to  
> change focus partially.
> 
> But over all, we need to be mostly descriptive, with an overall aim  
> to unify the directions of any mostly parallel activity.
> 
> >The descriptive approach may be somewhat disappointing to
> >the intended target audience I assume.  The prescriptive
> >approach may, as said, be overpromising, and hence would
> >counter the OGF motto 'under-promise -- over-deliver".
> 
> I'm inclined to promise little; offer much more, subject to increased  
> involvement from stake holders; and deliver as much as possible. We  
> will also need to identify that guaranteed delivery.
> 
> >What do you think is the right balance between these points?
> 
> Again, mostly descriptive, hence using the OGSA technical roadmap as  
> a starting point. The second focus should be on unifying what else  
> there is. Third focus on gaps and other priorities to motivate  
> increased involvement.
> 
> >What are the mechanisms for the realization of a potential
> >prescriptive roadmap?
> 
> 1) Use it to generate new effort already dedicated to the prescribed  
> direction,
> 2) Rallying cry for faster progress.
> 3) Slight changes in direction motivated by technical justification  
> (we are the Technical Strategy Committee after all).
> 4) Ideas welcome.
> 
> >
> >Thanks, Andre.
> >
> >
> >Quoting [David Snelling] (Aug 04 2006):
> >>
> >>Folks,
> >>
> >>Some thoughts from our leader of our little project
> >>
> >>
> >>Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>>From: "Linesch, Mark" <mark.linesch at hp.com>
> >>>Date: 3 August 2006 21:39:18 BDT
> >>>To: "David Snelling" <d.snelling at fle.fujitsu.com>, "David Snelling"
> >>><Dave at ThePlateau.com>
> >>>Cc: <scrumb at ggf.org>
> >>>Subject: Thoughts on the OGF Technical Direction and Roadmap  
> >>>Document
> >>>
> >>>Dave,
> >>>
> >>>I promised you a few thoughts to think about during vacation ;-)
> >>>See attached and hope you have a great and productive time off!
> >>>
> >>>Mark
> >>>Mark Linesch: Open Grid Forum (OGF): Hewlett Packard
> >>>281-514-0322 (Tel): 281-414-7082 (Cell) mark.linesch at hp.com :
> >>>linesch at ogf.org
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