comprehending the heart's nationalism
Mirimir
mirimir at riseup.net
Sat Jul 9 21:09:33 PDT 2016
On 07/09/2016 01:29 PM, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:03:00 -0600
> Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>> Was there an option to not join any state?
>>>
>>> I suspect not, but in the context, I think that would literally have
>>> been suicide. Or endless civil war as we see since then (the last
>>> two years) in eastern Ukraine.
>>
>> I find it hard to imagine how anarchist societies could develop in our
>> currently state-dominated world.
>
> Well, the statists can simply leave the anarchists alone. Sure
> it's unlikely, but it's simple.
Yes, very unlikely.
> But my point was that the referendum wasn't especially
> pristine.
>
> The soundest pro russian argument here may be that the russians
> didn't raze crimea to the ground...which is something the NATO
> humanitarians were more likely to do.
>
>
>
>> Anarchist societies have survived
>> through isolation, and some still do. But how does that work in places
>> under active state contention?
>>
>> Also, anarchy seems to work best when everyone is more-or-less equally
>> powerful. Everyone has the same weapons, for example. In science
>> fiction, anarchist societies typically depend on some new technology
>> that eliminates states' power monopoly.
>
> What technologies? The only 'technology' I can imagine making a
> difference would be some sort of physical shield that would
> make it impossible for individuals to be physically attacked.
Vinge's bobbles? But then we get to _Marooned in Realtime_.
>> Maybe it'll be the
>> Singularity.
>
> The sigularity is singular bullshit. If anything it seems
> likely to replace(i. e. kill) humanity with a bunch of
> motherfucking psychos like kurzweil and the rest of master-race
> 'elite' lunatics.
I like https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/last_trumpet/LTP.pdf :)
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