Cypherpunks is broken - Welcome to Secret Admirers
Juan
juan.g71 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 12:03:24 PDT 2015
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:41:00 +0000
Trent Secret Admirers <trent.secretadmirers at ownbay.net> wrote:
> TL;DR, apply here:
> And like the manifesto, we believe in action more than in talk.
>
> Just as software and hardware can be developed for surveillance
> purposes, so can it be for better privacy and a truly free cyberspace.
That's unfounded TALK.
> Technology itself is neutral, we choose what to build with it.
That's more talk. And it's wrong talk too! Technology may be
morally neutral, but it isn't 'neutral' in a general sense.
The current technology completly favors totalitarianism.
> The
> reason so little has been achieved lately is because we lost track of
> a fundamental point from the manifesto:
>
> Cypherpunks write code.
...without knowing the ABC of politics. That's cute.
>
> It seems that the original Cypherpunks mailing list degraded into a
> debating society
I guess people with no arguments are unlikely to like a
debating society...They don't like to be remainded of their
cluelessness.
>and very little new code is written. The
> signal-to-noise
> ratio has become abysmal. Intellectual masturbation won't give us more
> privacy - deployed code does.
And the proof backing your baseless talk is...where?
Right! It's no-where to be found.
What you have is only...talk.
>
> Towards that end we founded the Secret Admirers. This is what we
> offer - for members only:
>
> - The Secret Admirers mailing list (only reachable via Tor).
Yep. You get AAAAAA++++++ as far as self-parody goes.
> - The Secret Admirers mailing list archive.
> - Mail account on the Secret Admirers server to communicate with
> the mailing list and other members (IMAP).
> - Git repository hosting (with read access for all member
> repositories).
> - Members can edit a user file on the server (for example, to
> publish
> their public PGP key).
>
> Secret Admirers Rules
>
> - Secret Admirers is a community of doers. To be a member, you
> have to
> code/maintain privacy enhancing software and/or be the admin of
> privacy enhancing systems/services. This includes digital
> OPSEC tools
> and open-source hardware which is privacy/security related.
> - To become a full member of Secret Admirers you have to go
> through the
> application process (see below).
> - The existing full members will vote to decide if an applicant
> becomes
> a full member.
> - For all software and systems we design the following holds
> true: The
> more privacy it provides the better. This usually implies that
> strong
> cryptography is used as well.
> - Discussions on the Secret Admirers mailing list should be in
> regard to
> Cypherpunk... how to build better systems. Members are
> expected to communicate in a civilized manner and try to maintain a
> high signal-to-noise ratio.
> - Software written by our members in the context of Secret
> Admirers is
> freely available to all other members.
> - Only the original author may make the source code available to
> the general public. Members never release source code written and
> unreleased by other members.
> - A full member can bring up to two followers to Secret Admirers.
> - Followers get the same benefits as full members except voting
> rights
> and bringing in followers.
> - Followers can apply for full membership under the same rules
> as normal
> applicants.
> - Full members have to maintain the conditions of their
> application. That is, they keep working on/maintaining privacy
> related software or
> systems. If members stop being productive they risk loosing
> their membership status.
> - Members who do not follow the rules will be ejected. If a full
> member
> is ejected his followers will be ejected with him.
>
> How to apply for Secret Admirers
> For your Secret Admirers application we need:
>
> - A way to contact you (encrypted).
> - Your desired pseudonym on Secret Admirers.
> - A description of your working software project/system. If the
> code/system is already public we will request proof of control
> from you.
> - If you want to make the code only available to Secret Admirers
> we need it
> upfront to be able to review your application.
>
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