Underestimating long-term consequences of cryptoanarchy
John Kelsey
kelsey.j at ix.netcom.com
Mon May 12 15:08:31 PDT 2003
At 10:03 AM 5/10/03 -0700, Tim May wrote:
[Talking about government-assisted projects and businesses going broke]
>Which is all evolution in action, except that government should not be in
>the construction and business development business. (I would go further
>and say that nothing in the U.S. Constitution, which states and localities
>are bound by, justifies taking money from citizens to give to businesses.
>No matter "how smart an investment" it looks to be. Ditto for governments
>running gambling operations, but I digress.)
It's very clear that this is bad policy, though I'm not too sure it's
actually unconstitutional. Didn't the states finance and run some of the
early canals? The big problem is that the state has to have all kinds of
coercive powers to do its main jobs, and those powers are awfully handy
when the state is trying to protect its state-run businesses from
competition, or buy land for its favored new project that the owner doesn't
really want to sell, or whatever. A secondary problem is that there's no
limit to how much the business can lose, when it simply can't go broke
because the state owns and protects it. Just look at AMTRAK. (And as many
of us have learned to our cost in the last few years, there's almost no
limit other than bankruptcy to how quickly a badly-run business can lose
money.)
>According to news reports on this area, Sunnyvale is still losing money on
>a major indoor mall it built 23-4 years ago ("Sunnyvale Town Center,"
>which I used to live a mile or so away from when it was being built in the
>late 70s.
>
>IMO, there's something very, very wrong about any level of government
>building shopping malls.
Yep. Though I think it's a lot more common that a private company builds
and operates the shopping malls, but with special incentives given to the
company by the government. This is basically patronage, and it's always
been a big part of local politics. How does that Huey Long quote
go? Something like "Those who give a lot will get a large slice of the
pie; those who give a little will get a small slice of the pie, and those
who give nothing will get...good government." And of course, you get
interesting competition between local governments, with each offering a
bigger bag of goodies paid for by the taxpayers, or seized by condemning
someone's property, so that the big mall built two years ago goes bankrupt
because of the newer, shinier, even more subsidized mall that's just been
built a few miles away. The same sort of competition happens for
factories. I'm not usually a "there oughta be a law" kind of person, but
in this case, a well-thought-out federal law prohibiting this kind of
competition would be a major net benefit to taxpayers and local governments
throughout the country.
>--Tim May
--John Kelsey, kelsey.j at ix.netcom.com
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