Burning off the useless eaters
John Kelsey
kelsey.j at ix.netcom.com
Sat May 3 11:03:13 PDT 2003
At 02:55 PM 5/2/03 -0700, Tim May wrote:
...
>Item: Research in astrophysics and cosmology is booming today. No
>corporate interest in figuring out the role of dark matter, dark energy,
>superstrings, anthropic reasons for the neutrino mass, inflation, and a
>dozen other currently hot topics. Much of the work came from the fruits of
>industrial development, just as much of the astronomy work of the past 150
>years, even longer, has come from industrial methods and tools. In the
>1930s, the ability to construct very large Pyrex mirrors...I lived in the
>1950s within a pleasant Sunday drive to Mount Palomar, for a long time the
>very largest telescope in the world.
Nitpick: You could argue that much of the research in physics wouldn't be
happening without substantial government funding for research. Certainly,
it's hard to see who would be funding a lot of this stuff with any eye to
practical applications within their lifetimes.
...
>I reject the claim that corporations and capitalism are either stifling
>innovation or that innovation is not happening because corporations aren't
>doing "enough" basic research.
This is obviously true. In fact, hearing people say that capitalism
stifles innovation, and offering the modern US as an example, is a bit
mind-numbing. The pace of innovation in almost every field is
breathtaking. Imagine taking a modern, Wal-Mart-available solar powered
scientific calculator, and dropping it on Leslie Groves' desk in
1943. That whole group of brilliant scientists and engineers working on
the first atomic bomb would have had a hell of a time distinguishing the
result from space-alien technology, other than the convenient use of our
numbering and lettering system. (And they would have been scared s***less
when they saw "made in Japan" on the back!)
Nor is this just true of this century. Look at the rate of innovation in
the US and UK in the 1800s, under more-or-less capitalistic
rules. Railroads and telegraphs and steam ships and radio and electricity
and chemical fertilizers and pesticides and the germ theory of disease and
the very beginning glimmers of modern physics and machine guns and barbed
wire and streetcars and mass production factories and modern steel bridges
and....
These two centuries have defined the modern world, and whatever the
reasons, nearly all the real innovations have happened in mostly
capitalistic countries with substantial personal freedom, and (probably
more importantly) the ability to let new technology displace incumbents and
to allow innovators to be rewarded for their innovation by the opportunity
to do still more innovation.
...
>--Tim May
--John Kelsey, kelsey.j at ix.netcom.com
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