US soldiers in Iraq held against their will
Tim May
timcmay at got.net
Sun Aug 17 15:21:43 PDT 2003
On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 02:04:09PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
>>
>>> Just heard about this local guy who reluctantly went to Iraq
>>> because
>>> he was in the reserves, now his contract is up (as of 7/31) and they
>>> won't let him out.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I've known for more than 40 years that there's always been language in
>> the deal the Reservists make that say they can be called back as
>> needed, in times of war. And kept in until not needed.
>>
>> If this guy didn't know that Reserve pay comes with strings attached,
>> he should have.
>> No sympathy from me.
>>
>
> That doesn't jive with the statutes:
You said he was in the reserves. And that's what I commented on.
Below you are quoting use of the _National Guard_.
National Guard !=! Armed Forces Reserves (any of the services)
Activating reservists has a familiar name: "calling up the reserves."
And when reservists are activated, they are back in their respective
services, e.g., the Army, the Navy, whatever. And once back in the
Army, they are subject to the usual extensions of their duty during
wartime.
Reservists are not the same as National Guard.
(In fact, there should be more debate about Bush having the authority
to send the National Guard (of any state) into battle. It is supposed
to be the Governors of states which can call up the National Guard.)
>
> TITLE 10 > Subtitle E > PART II > CHAPTER 1211 >
> Sec. 12407.
>
> Sec. 12407. - National Guard in Federal service:
> period of service; apportionment
>
> (a)
>
> Whenever the President calls the National Guard of a
> State into Federal service, he may specify in the
> call the period of service. Members and units called
> shall serve inside or outside the territory of the
> United States during the term specified, unless
> sooner relieved by the President. However, no member
> of the National Guard may be kept in Federal service
> beyond the term of his commission or enlistment.
>
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> --
> Harmon Seaver
> CyberShamanix
> http://www.cybershamanix.com
>
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--Tim May
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." --Robert A.
Heinlein
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