Making the Agora Vanish | OSINT distributed haven (Intellagora)

David Honig honig at sprynet.com
Tue Apr 17 19:32:20 PDT 2001


At 08:45 PM 4/17/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>
>On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote:
>
>> Persistent, untraceable nym.
>> 
>> Both.
>> 
>> Untraceables without persistance are useful mostly for email.
>> Persistent & untraceable, that's part of the Realization.
>
>Well, part of it, probably. The point being there are many 'kinds' of
>'anonymity'. They are not(!) all equivalent.

Yes that is one of the things you can actually learn from this group
if your receiver can handle the S/N ratio.

>
>If there is no 'persistance' the requirement that it be 'untraceable' is
>moot, unless you plan on coming back (very bad idea to ever visit the same
>place twice, or stay in the same place more than 24 hours).

If you have a non-persistant but traceable nym, what's
the point?  Suppose you use a one-time email account to threaten the
president, but the message is traceable to your carcass (e.g., the internet
cafe
had surveillance cameras).   You may as well use your Meat Name; its gonna
hit the papers anyway.

On the other hand, a non-persistant and untraceable nym is good for
threatening the president, but not useful for reputation building.

A persistant but untraceable nym is good for commerce.

All are possible.  All are useful.  Ergo, all will come about, whether
you like it or not.









 






  








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