CDR: Re: Why Free Speech Matters

[Kevin Elliott]

At 23:12 -0500 9/27/00, Jim Choate wrote:
>The act by the business of refusing to service me as a customer because I
>don't have the lifestyle they like IS most certainly an infringement of
>the civil liberties of the customers and they should be able to take
>action accordingly against the business for trying to constrain their
>liberty.

In this framework where does your right to refuse entry to your 
private residence come from?

>Demonstrate that the two dykes infringed the right of the owner to try to
>make a profit. Then, and only then, will you have a case to infringe their
>right to express their beliefs.
>
>Would it have mattered if it was a guy and his girlfriend? If so, why?
>Why is a man and a woman kissing not infringing or damaging but two
>women/men is?

In my mind this is all about property rights.  He (the business 
owner) doesn't have a right to make a property, he has the right to 
say what persons can and cannot do on his property.  If they refuse 
to comply he has the right to ask them to leave and possibly resort 
to force to remove them.  If money has been involved in the exchange 
(ie, the lesbians bought a ticket) they have a right to demand 
compensation IF their actions were not explicitly banned.  The owners 
reasons do not have to be moral, reasonable, intelligent, or even 
rationale.  It's his property.
-- 

Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott 
<mailto:kelliott at mac.com>                             ICQ#23758827
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