[socialmedia] Italy situation

Sun May 24 08:30:12 PDT 2020

Hi, Laura. I'm not sure what we would post on www.gutenberg.org, other than we are aware some people in Italy are being blocked.

I don't want to use that page to advocate for any particular action. We don't want such a message to backfire.

Thanks for any thoughts you might have...
 Greg

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 02:08:01PM +0100, Laura N wrote:
> Some new complaints from some Italian users today:
> Trovatore in transito
> [image: Flag of Italy]
> 
> [image: Earth globe europe-africa]
> @matteozenatti
> <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti>
> ·
> 3h <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti/status/1264493467008405504>
> Hi,
> @gutenberg_org <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org>
> , I discovered today that the italian version of the site is blocked. Any
> chance to solve this problem?
> Ùquen
> [image: Brain]
> [image: Earth globe europe-africa]
> [image: Raised hand with part between middle and ring fingers]
> @_Sazed
> <https://twitter.com/_Sazed>
> ·
> 2h <https://twitter.com/_Sazed/status/1264509681738883073>
> @lastknight <https://twitter.com/lastknight>
> ne sai qualcosa? Con alcuni provider compare l'avviso della guardia di
> finanza.
> 
> Then I posted Greg's last statement at @gutenberg_org
> 
> Trovatore in transito
> [image: Flag of Italy]
> 
> [image: Earth globe europe-africa]
> @matteozenatti
> <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti>
> ·
> 1h <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti/status/1264513959782219776>
> Thankyou a lot. I hope this situation will change, in Italy they are
> blocking several sites distributing illegally ebooks and newspapers. It
> seems the authorities have assumed that your site is similar (!).
> 
> Project Gutenberg
> @gutenberg_org
> <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org>
> ·
> 38m <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org/status/1264533140632227841>
> All our ebooks are within US public domain!!
> 
> Trovatore in transito
> [image: Flag of Italy]
> 
> [image: Earth globe europe-africa]
> @matteozenatti
> <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti>
> Replying to
> @gutenberg_org <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org>
> @_Sazed <https://twitter.com/_Sazed>
> and
> @lastknight <https://twitter.com/lastknight>
> But surely they are in Italy too! But in these days in Italy they are
> conducting a bad campaign against ebooks and newspapers illegal sharings. I
> say bad because, clearly, they are not able to distinguish.
> 
> Project Gutenberg
> @gutenberg_org
> <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org>
> ·
> 19m <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org/status/1264538090019921920>
> Replying to
> @matteozenatti <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti>
> @_Sazed <https://twitter.com/_Sazed>
> and
> @lastknight <https://twitter.com/lastknight>
> Is there any additional action we could make in order to elucidate this
> whole mess?
> 
> Trovatore in transito
> [image: Flag of Italy]
> 
> [image: Earth globe europe-africa]
> @matteozenatti
> <https://twitter.com/matteozenatti>
> Replying to
> @gutenberg_org <https://twitter.com/gutenberg_org>
> @_Sazed <https://twitter.com/_Sazed>
> and
> @lastknight <https://twitter.com/lastknight>
> Send a message to (inter)national press. Should be important I guess.
> @ilpost <https://twitter.com/ilpost>
> @repubblica <https://twitter.com/repubblica>
> @LaStampa <https://twitter.com/LaStampa>
> @Corriere <https://twitter.com/Corriere>
> @neXtquotidiano <https://twitter.com/neXtquotidiano>
> Or/and leave a box on your site's main page. Here we can reach the site
> only with tricks (changing dns, anonimization...).
> 
> Greg what do you think about the later suggestions? Do you think it's
> feasible to post a note on our website?
> 
> Wishing all a splendid Sunday.
> 
> Laura
> 
> Em qua., 20 de mai. de 2020 às 15:59, Laura N <lnatal55 at gmail.com> escreveu:
> 
> > Dear all:
> >
> > The block from SIAE, which started in the Province of Rome, is affecting
> > all users in Central Italy (Tuscany specifically) also.
> >
> > According to francesco p. micozzi (works at array.eu
> > <https://t.co/SWCV503DTB?amp=1>)
> > @fpmicozzi
> > Avvocato - Diritto penale, dell'informatica e delle nuove tecnologie:
> >
> > "Strano un tipo di sequestro limitato a Roma... direi quasi impossibile o
> > errore"
> >
> > (Strange a type of kidnapping limited to Rome ... I would say almost
> > impossible or mistake)
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Laura
> >
> > Em qua., 20 de mai. de 2020 às 12:33, Greg Newby via socialmedia <
> > socialmedia at lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:
> >
> >> I've received some correspondence from people watching our FB & Twitter
> >> about issues with some people in Italy reaching PG. Feel free to use this
> >> email list to share information.
> >>
> >> Below is a generic response I have sent to people who contact the
> >> helpdesk.
> >>  - Greg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Project Gutenberg has received reports that some visitors from Italy are
> >> being blocked from www.gutenberg.org
> >>
> >> We were informed that visitors are blocked with an image with this text:
> >>
> >> Italian: Guardia di Finanza
> >> NUCLEO SPECIALE TUTELA PRIVACY E FRODI TECNOLOGICHE
> >> SITO SOTTOPOSTO A SEQUESTRO
> >> per le violazioni di cui agli artt. 81 cpv, 171, co.2, L.633/1941
> >> Procedirnento Penale n. 52127/20 R.G.N.R. I.
> >> Procura della Repubblica presso ii Tribunale Ordinario di Roma
> >>
> >> Translation to English: Guardia di Finanza
> >> SPECIAL CORE PRIVACY PROTECTION AND TECHNOLOGICAL FRAUD
> >> WEBSITE SUBJECT TO SEQUEST
> >> for the violations referred to in articles 81 para. 171, co.2, L.633 /
> >> 1941
> >> Criminal Procedure no. 52127/20 R.G.N.R. THE.
> >> Public Prosecutor at the Ordinary Court of Rome
> >>
> >> Evidently, this is a block applied by Italian authorities (perhaps only
> >> in Rome). It's not anything on the www.gutenberg.org servers or
> >> associated infrastructure.
> >>
> >> We don't have any agents or expertise in Italy (PG operates wholly from
> >> the US). If someone in Italy finds out more about this, we will be pleased
> >> to receive further details.
> >>
> >> We apologize that Project Gutenberg is not available in Italy, at least
> >> to some users. This does not seem to be something that Project Gutenberg
> >> has any control over. We suggest that impacted persons contact their local
> >> librarian for help in finding eBooks of interest.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>   Greg Newby
> >>
> >> Dr. Gregory B. Newby
> >> Chief Executive and Director
> >> Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org
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> >> gbnewby at pglaf.org
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