From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Sun Apr  3 00:44:04 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:44:04 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Joint SDOs next call (April 4th) proposed agenda
Message-ID: <012b01c53818$8702ded0$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi all,

The following is a proposed agenda for SCRM telecon on April 4th Monday 
from 8am to 9am (CDT).

The dial-in info for the next Joint SDO call on April 4th (Monday).

January 10th (Monday):
6am(PDT) = 8am(CDT) = 9am(EDT) = 2pm(UK) = 3pm(CET) = 10pm(JST)

US Toll free       1866 2485984
US Toll West coast +1 4089616553
         East Coast +1 7183541169
Netherlands Toll free 0800 0223422
Netherlands Toll       +31 202013852
Japan Toll free    0034 800400552
Japan Toll         +813 35708256

The participant code is:  2051278#

The proposed agenda for the upcoming call:

(1) Early discussion (10 minutes)
- March telecon minutes approval
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/Meeting_Minutes_for_M
arch_7_2005/en/1
- Agenda Bashing

(2) Landscape project: (30 minutes)
Review submitted information and discuss the next "analysis" process.

https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=149&category_id=90
8

New template (v3.4)
NGOSS by TMF

(3) Press release plan around June (GGF14)  (20 minutes)

(4) Wrap up


Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto





From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Mon Apr  4 07:21:28 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:21:28 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] landscape spec list (RE: Joint SDOs next call (April 4th) proposed agenda)
In-Reply-To: <012b01c53818$8702ded0$57d5190a@ORD>
Message-ID: <009d01c53910$d3ccc700$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi all,

Attached is a list of specifications which are reported before now.
Let's talk on coverage analysis at today's call.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org] On Behalf
Of
> Hiro Kishimoto
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:44 PM
> To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> Subject: [scrm-pvt] Joint SDOs next call (April 4th) proposed agenda
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The following is a proposed agenda for SCRM telecon on April 4th Monday
> from 8am to 9am (CDT).
> 
> The dial-in info for the next Joint SDO call on April 4th (Monday).
> 
> January 10th (Monday):
> 6am(PDT) = 8am(CDT) = 9am(EDT) = 2pm(UK) = 3pm(CET) = 10pm(JST)
> 
> US Toll free       1866 2485984
> US Toll West coast +1 4089616553
>          East Coast +1 7183541169
> Netherlands Toll free 0800 0223422
> Netherlands Toll       +31 202013852
> Japan Toll free    0034 800400552
> Japan Toll         +813 35708256
> 
> The participant code is:  2051278#
> 
> The proposed agenda for the upcoming call:
> 
> (1) Early discussion (10 minutes)
> - March telecon minutes approval
>
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/Meeting_Minutes_for_M
> arch_7_2005/en/1
> - Agenda Bashing
> 
> (2) Landscape project: (30 minutes)
> Review submitted information and discuss the next "analysis" process.
> 
>
https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=149&category_id=90
> 8
> 
> New template (v3.4)
> NGOSS by TMF
> 
> (3) Press release plan around June (GGF14)  (20 minutes)
> 
> (4) Wrap up
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> 

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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Fri Apr 15 03:53:58 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:53:58 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
Message-ID: <002b01c54198$a94bf8d0$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi all,

Please find meeting minutes of April 4th.

I've upload all teleconference minutes, from August 2nd, 2004 to
April 4th, 2005 (14 total) to SCRM project page. Once you registered,
you can access these past minutes.

https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=149&category_id=90
6

Next call is on May 9th (instead of May 2nd). Please mark your calendar.
Dial in information and draft agenda will be sent out shortly.

If you do not yet have GridForge account, please create your account at
https://forge.gridforum.org/account/register.php
and let me know your account name. I will register you as a project 
member and enable you access to this project page.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Mon Apr 18 02:50:13 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:50:13 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
Message-ID: <002401c543eb$40b7a580$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi all,

Based on the last telecon discussion, I added actions to the summary table
(yellow mark). Please have a look to attached file and if you have any question,

please let me know.

The file is also uploaded to the project page;

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/landscape-summary-tab
le/en/2

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


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From bwijnen at lucent.com  Fri Apr 22 10:10:25 2005
From: bwijnen at lucent.com (Wijnen, Bert (Bert))
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:10:25 +0200
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15506AD772D@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com>

Hiro (and others),

I am recovering pretty well from my heart surgery. 
I am officially back at work for half days, so I am trying
to catch up, but there is a looooonnngggg queue. So I appologize
in advance if things take somewhat longer.

Inline comments

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org]On
> Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:54
> To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> Subject: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Please find meeting minutes of April 4th.
> 
> I've upload all teleconference minutes, from August 2nd, 2004 to
> April 4th, 2005 (14 total) to SCRM project page. Once you registered,
> you can access these past minutes.
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=149&category_id=906
> 
> Next call is on May 9th (instead of May 2nd). Please mark your calendar.
> Dial in information and draft agenda will be sent out shortly.
> 
May 2nd was bad (I have an allday meeting, and so has Dave Sidor)
Unfortunately, I will be traveling on May 9th.
But pls do inform me of the exact time. I may be able to confer in
from my mobile... depending on where I am during my travel.

> If you do not yet have GridForge account, please create your account at
> https://forge.gridforum.org/account/register.php
> and let me know your account name. I will register you as a project 
> member and enable you access to this project page.
> 
I created bwijnen, pls register me as an object member

Bert
> Thanks,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> 
> 




From bwijnen at lucent.com  Fri Apr 22 10:50:55 2005
From: bwijnen at lucent.com (Wijnen, Bert (Bert))
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:50:55 +0200
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15506AD772E@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org]On
> Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 09:50
> To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Based on the last telecon discussion, I added actions to the 
> summary table
> (yellow mark). Please have a look to attached file and if you 
> have any question,
> 
> please let me know.
> 
> The file is also uploaded to the project page;
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/lan
dscape-summary-tab
le/en/2

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


Hiro, attached are my updates for IETF.

There may be more, 
some of it we may not want to have here, but deleting later is
easy I think.

Bert

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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Sat Apr 23 18:26:30 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:26:30 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15506AD772D@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com>
Message-ID: <00c301c5485b$e15deca0$57d5190a@ORD>

Thanks Bert for your notes,

I am heartily glad that you are now happily recovering from your surgery.
Please take care of yourself.

> May 2nd was bad (I have an allday meeting, and so has Dave Sidor)

No call on May 2nd.

> Unfortunately, I will be traveling on May 9th.
> But pls do inform me of the exact time. I may be able to confer in
> from my mobile... depending on where I am during my travel.

May 9th call will use usual time slot.
6am(PDT) = 8am(CDT) = 9am(EDT) = 2pm(UK) = 3pm(CET) =10pm(JST)
Dial-in information and draft agenda will be sent out soon.
I hope you can join the call.

> I created bwijnen, pls register me as an object member

Done. Now you can access SCRM project page on the GridForge.
If you have any difficulties, do not hesitate to ask me.

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private

Thanks again,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:10 AM
> To: 'Hiro Kishimoto'
> Cc: 'scrm-private at ggf.org'
> Subject: RE: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
>
> Hiro (and others),
>
> I am recovering pretty well from my heart surgery.
> I am officially back at work for half days, so I am trying
> to catch up, but there is a looooonnngggg queue. So I appologize
> in advance if things take somewhat longer.
>
> Inline comments
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:54
> > To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> > Subject: [scrm-pvt] Meeting notes April 4th
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please find meeting minutes of April 4th.
> >
> > I've upload all teleconference minutes, from August 2nd, 2004 to
> > April 4th, 2005 (14 total) to SCRM project page. Once you registered,
> > you can access these past minutes.
> >
> >
>
https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=149&category_id=90
> 6
> >
> > Next call is on May 9th (instead of May 2nd). Please mark your calendar.
> > Dial in information and draft agenda will be sent out shortly.
> >
> May 2nd was bad (I have an allday meeting, and so has Dave Sidor)
> Unfortunately, I will be traveling on May 9th.
> But pls do inform me of the exact time. I may be able to confer in
> from my mobile... depending on where I am during my travel.
>
> > If you do not yet have GridForge account, please create your account at
> > https://forge.gridforum.org/account/register.php
> > and let me know your account name. I will register you as a project
> > member and enable you access to this project page.
> >
> I created bwijnen, pls register me as an object member
>
> Bert
> > Thanks,
> > ----
> > Hiro Kishimoto
> >
> >
> >





From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Sat Apr 23 19:01:33 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:01:33 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15506AD772E@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com>
Message-ID: <00c401c54860$c6c27460$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi Bert,

Thank you very much for adding more than 17 key specifications
to our landscape document. I've uploaded your EXCEL file as the
new revision of our "Landscape summary table."

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/landscape-summary-tab
le/en/3
or http://tinyurl.com/ao59g

Please use the latest template (v3.4) to summarize each specification.

https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/sdo-template-draft/en
/2
or http://tinyurl.com/c97aq

I recommend you to group them in four batches; SMI, SNMP, NETCONF,
and MIB, and provide just four summary sheets as first step.
Do you think you can provide them by the next call (May 9th.)?

Thanks again,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:51 AM
> To: 'Hiro Kishimoto'; scrm-private at ggf.org
> Subject: RE: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 09:50
> > To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> > Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Based on the last telecon discussion, I added actions to the
> > summary table
> > (yellow mark). Please have a look to attached file and if you
> > have any question,
> >
> > please let me know.
> >
> > The file is also uploaded to the project page;
> >
> > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/lan
> dscape-summary-tab
> le/en/2
>
> Thanks,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
>
>
> Hiro, attached are my updates for IETF.
>
> There may be more,
> some of it we may not want to have here, but deleting later is
> easy I think.
>
> Bert





From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Sat Apr 23 19:51:54 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:51:54 +0900
Subject: The latest template version (RE: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005)
Message-ID: <00d201c54867$cf3d2750$57d5190a@ORD>

Hi Bert and SCRM members,

The latest summary template is v3.5 (not v3.4).
Please use the attached template for your homework.

Also URL link;
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/sdo-template-draft

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; 'scrm-private at ggf.org'
> Subject: RE: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
> 
> Hi Bert,
> 
> Thank you very much for adding more than 17 key specifications
> to our landscape document. I've uploaded your EXCEL file as the
> new revision of our "Landscape summary table."
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/landscape-summary-
> table/en/3
> or http://tinyurl.com/ao59g
> 
> Please use the latest template (v3.4) to summarize each specification.
> 
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/sdo-template-
> draft/en/2
> or http://tinyurl.com/c97aq
> 
> I recommend you to group them in four batches; SMI, SNMP, NETCONF,
> and MIB, and provide just four summary sheets as first step.
> Do you think you can provide them by the next call (May 9th.)?
> 
> Thanks again,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen at lucent.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:51 AM
> > To: 'Hiro Kishimoto'; scrm-private at ggf.org
> > Subject: RE: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-scrm-private at ggf.org [mailto:owner-scrm-private at ggf.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 09:50
> > > To: scrm-private at ggf.org
> > > Subject: [scrm-pvt] Landscape summary table as of April 18, 2005
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Based on the last telecon discussion, I added actions to the
> > > summary table
> > > (yellow mark). Please have a look to attached file and if you
> > > have any question,
> > >
> > > please let me know.
> > >
> > > The file is also uploaded to the project page;
> > >
> > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/lan
> > dscape-summary-tab
> > le/en/2
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ----
> > Hiro Kishimoto
> >
> >
> > Hiro, attached are my updates for IETF.
> >
> > There may be more,
> > some of it we may not want to have here, but deleting later is
> > easy I think.
> >
> > Bert

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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Fri Apr 29 17:19:38 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:19:38 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Dialogue with ITU-T
Message-ID: <000001c54d09$8969bda0$ace61fac@ORD>

Hi all,

Since Dave Sidor, chair of ITU-T NGN management Focus Group,
cannot make upcoming SCRM call on May 9th, Dave and I had a 
separate one-to-one call on April 28.

We went over (1) NGN management FG's overview slides (Dave
kindly gave us short time ago, and (2) our latest spec summary
template (ver. 3.5).

Although, scope/target and goals/output are quite a bit different,
we found that the mechanism/process of both activities are 
very similar. 

Both SCRM and NGN management FG are collecting summary 
of existing or emerging standards specifications (which are 
developed by some other organization) utilizing common 
template. Based on these summaries, gaps and overlaps are going 
to be identified. Deliverables of the activities are landscape and/or 
roadmap documents.

At this moment, Dave has 40 to 50 summaries and is writing up
annotated list of specifications named "NGN management roadmap."
Differently, his FG embraces some of proposed specs as ITU-T's 
specification.

Given our activity has a role model, I'm feeling quietly confident 
of our success.

Dave has the kindness to give us several summary sheets of
their key specifications and will join in our June call. 

The call was very productive. Thanks Dave.
----
Hiro Kishimoto






From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Fri Apr 29 17:19:38 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:19:38 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] New expert members from GGF
Message-ID: <000101c54d09$8b0f7e60$ace61fac@ORD>

Hi all,

In order to make specification summaries and develop "landscape 
document," GGF has designated and taken in the following technical 
experts and liaisons to the SCRM. (I expect a couple of more experts 
will join sometime soon.)

Dejan Milojicic, GGF CDDLM-WG co-chair
Pete Ziu, GGF ACS-WG co-chair
Keisuke Fukui, ACS-WG co-chair
Cees de Laat, GGF liaison to IEEE
Tom Roney, GGF liaison to DMTF
Joel Replogle, GGF Standards Facilitator

If your institution designates experts for the SCRM, please let
me know, I will make him or her subscribe for the SCRM mailing-list 
and enroll him/her as a GridForge SCRM project member on the spot.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto


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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Fri Apr 29 17:36:22 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:36:22 +0900
Subject: [scrm-pvt] Joint SDOs next call (May 9th) proposed agenda
Message-ID: <004e01c54d0b$e05764d0$ace61fac@ORD>

Hi all,

The following is a proposed agenda for SCRM telecon on May 9th Monday 
from 8am to 9am (CDT).

The dial-in info for the next Joint SDO call on May 9th (Monday).
6am(PDT) = 8am(CDT) = 9am(EDT) = 2pm(UK) = 3pm(CET) = 10pm(JST)

Dial-in information for this call is as follows:
US dial-in: 1-888-455-3044
Int'l dial-in: 1-210-839-8611
passcode: 42984.

[TO DO]
To read the latest "Landscape summary table" and populate the summary sheet
accordingly.

- Landscape summary table
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/landscape-summary-tab
le/
- Latest summary template (v3.5)
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/sdo-template-draft/


The proposed agenda for the upcoming call:

 [AGENDA]
(1) Early discussion (10 minutes)
- telecon minutes approval.
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/scrm-private/document/minutes-20050404/
- Agenda Bashing

(2) Landscape project: (30 minutes)
Review submitted summary information and discuss the next "analysis" process.

(3) Press release discussion: (20 minutes)
We agree to issue press release around GGF14 in June.
Discuss how to prepare this press release and decide schedule

(4) Wrap up

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto