From bill at computer.org Tue Mar 1 10:39:29 2005 From: bill at computer.org (Bill Nitzberg) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 08:39:29 -0800 Subject: [sched-chairs] GGF SRM Area - Chairs Telecon Notes, 1 Mar 2005 Message-ID: <200503011639.j21Gd8p8006834@mail.pbspro.com> GGF Sched Area - Chairs Telecon Notes, 1 Mar 2005 ================================================== Attendees (with '*'s): ---------------------- *Bill Nitzberg, Area Director *Stephen Pickles, Area Director Keisuke Fukui, ACS-WG Thomas Studwell, ACS-WG Peter Ziu, ACS-WG *Hrabri Rajic, DRMAA-WG Andreas Haas, DRMAA-WG Wolfgang Ziegler, GRAAP-WG Jim Pruyne, GRAAP-WG Volker Sander, GRAAP-WG Jon MacLaren, GESA-WG Steven Newhouse, GESA-WG Steven Newhouse, RUS-WG Bill Horn, RUS-WG Rebekah Metz, UR-WG Stephen McGough, JSDL-WG Ali Anjomshoaa, JSDL-WG Darren Pulsipher, JSDL-WG *Dejan Milojicic, CDDLM-WG Takashi Kojo, CDDLM-WG Ramin Yahyapour, GSA-RG Uwe Schwiegelshohn, GSA-RG Jarek Nabrzyski, GSA-RG Ewa Deelman, WFM-RG Jim Blythe, WFM-RG Miron Livny, WRM-RG ('+' == could not attend, but emailed status report) *** Stop Press *** ------------------ You are all invited to the SRM area meeting during GGF13. Time: Tuesday March 15, 7pm-8:30pm Venue: Sapphire Ballroom 4 Notes ----- Upcoming GGFs: GGF13 14-17 Mar 2005 Seoul, Korea GGF14 ~Jun 2005 Chicago, USA (Tentative) GGF15 ~Oct 2005 (Tentative) Status ------ ACS-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org CDDLM-WG -- Still working on submitting all 3 docs before GGF13. Got great feedback from one of the OASIS members. DRMAA-WG -- Submitted 3 docs for GGF13; Have some minor changes to propose to spec. document. GESA-WG -- (hibernating...) NOTE: There will be a Grid Economies Workshop at GGF13 -- see www.ggf.org. GRAAP-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org GSA-RG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org JSDL-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org RUS-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org UR-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org WFM-RG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org Upcoming Telecons ----------------- Every other Tuesday (skipping holiday weeks) 8a US Pacific (see www.worldtime.com to convert) Usually very short (less than 15 minutes long) Dial-in: 1-800-387-6159 & 1-303-248-0173 Conference ID: 7144404 Upcoming Telecons / or status reports due before: 29 Mar 2005 There will be no SRM telecon on 15 March 2005 due to GGF 13. If you can't make a telecon, please send us a note. If no chairs from your group will make a telecon, please also send a status update to everyone on the list (sched-chairs at gridforum.org). As always, please keep things moving forward --- if you need help setting up a separate mailing list or teleconference calls for your group, etc., don't hesitate to ask us. Thanks all! - Bill & Stephen GGF SRM Area Directors From pruyne at hpl.hp.com Tue Mar 1 13:03:34 2005 From: pruyne at hpl.hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:03:34 -0600 Subject: [sched-chairs] GRAAP Status Message-ID: <4224BC86.8030307@hpl.hp.com> WS-Agreement spec public comment period has ended. The group is meeting weekly to address the nice collection of comments we've received. We manage to get through 3 or 4 of these on each call. We'll summarize our results to this point in our one session at GGF13. --- Jim From ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu Thu Mar 3 03:37:10 2005 From: ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu (Ramin Yahyapour) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:37:10 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG Message-ID: <4226DAC6.7070108@udo.edu> Sorry for the late reply. I was out of office the last two days. Here is the roundup for GSA-RG: Status: - Contribution to the use-case document have been included into the latest doc version which is available on GridForge - Work continued on GGF13 session preparation Ramin -- Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de Computer Engineering Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 From bill at computer.org Sun Mar 13 23:34:45 2005 From: bill at computer.org (Bill Nitzberg) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:34:45 +0900 Subject: [sched-chairs] SRM Area Meeting at GGF13 Message-ID: <200503140534.j2E5Y69A000241@mail.pbspro.com> Hi, If you are at GGF13, please plan on attending the Scheduling and Resource Management Area meeting on Tuesday at 7p in Sapphire Ballroom 4. No need to prepare anything to present. However, please come prepared with an update on your documents (especially what you expect to be delivering in 2005, and when you expect them to go into Public Comment). If you can't make it, please (a) let us know by Noon tomorrow (Tue), and (b) send an update on your documents to this list. Best regards, - bill From kfukui at labs.fujitsu.com Tue Mar 29 06:39:02 2005 From: kfukui at labs.fujitsu.com (Keisuke Fukui (On the road)) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:39:02 +0900 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status ACS Message-ID: <42494C66.9070108@labs.fujitsu.com> My apologies that I cannot make it for today's call. Here is a update for the ACS status: - Not much progress since my report at GGF13 sched area meeting. - We are to discuss the work schedule for creating wg draft at GGF14 in June. We will have a tele-conference on Mar 30 19:00 EST to discuss this. Details on acs-wg ML. - We are also considering about the possibility of face-to-face before GGF14, but it depends on our schedule. Regards, -- Keisuke Fukui, Fujitsu Limited Email: kfukui at labs.fujitsu.com PHONE: +81-44-754-2628 (044-754-2628) ext. 6227 FJ COINS: 7112-6227 From ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu Tue Mar 29 06:59:43 2005 From: ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu (Ramin Yahyapour) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:59:43 +0200 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG Message-ID: <4249513F.2040402@udo.edu> I cannot make the telecon call today. However, I also did not see a reminder for it. Therefore I am not sure whether there is one. As we just had one week between GGF13 and this telecon, there is not much progress to mention. However, the meeting minutes are already available on GridForge as well as the session slides have been uploaded. Ramin -- Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de Computer Engineering Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 University of Dortmund | mobil: +49 (179) 5261973 44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 From stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk Tue Mar 29 07:13:58 2005 From: stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen Pickles) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:13:58 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <4249513F.2040402@udo.edu> Message-ID: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> A call _is_ scheduled for today, as reported in the notes of the last one. I'm unsure about the time - summer time started in the UK on Sunday morning. Does anyone know if summer time has started in the US yet? Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org > [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Ramin Yahyapour > Sent: 29 March 2005 14:00 > To: sched-chairs at ggf.org > Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG > > > I cannot make the telecon call today. However, I also did not > see a reminder for it. Therefore I am not sure whether there is > one. > > As we just had one week between GGF13 and this telecon, there is > not much progress to mention. > However, the meeting minutes are already available on GridForge as > well as the session slides have been uploaded. > > Ramin > > -- > Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | > mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de > Computer Engineering > Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 > University of Dortmund | mobil: +49 (179) 5261973 > 44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 > > From ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu Tue Mar 29 07:17:16 2005 From: ramin.yahyapour at udo.edu (Ramin Yahyapour) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:17:16 +0200 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> References: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4249555C.5050003@udo.edu> Stephen Pickles wrote the following on 29.03.2005 15:13: > A call _is_ scheduled for today, as reported in the > notes of the last one. > > I'm unsure about the time - summer time started in the > UK on Sunday morning. Does anyone know if summer time > has started in the US yet? I don't know about DST in the US, but the following world clock is usually quite helpful about exact times in different locations: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ Ramin > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org >>[mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Ramin Yahyapour >>Sent: 29 March 2005 14:00 >>To: sched-chairs at ggf.org >>Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG >> >> >>I cannot make the telecon call today. However, I also did not >>see a reminder for it. Therefore I am not sure whether there is >>one. >> >>As we just had one week between GGF13 and this telecon, there is >>not much progress to mention. >>However, the meeting minutes are already available on GridForge as >>well as the session slides have been uploaded. >> >>Ramin >> >>-- >>Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | >>mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de >>Computer Engineering >>Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 >>University of Dortmund | mobil: +49 (179) 5261973 >>44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 >> >> > > -- Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de Computer Engineering Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 University of Dortmund | mobil: +49 (179) 5261973 44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 From Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu Tue Mar 29 07:21:32 2005 From: Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu (Uwe Schwiegelshohn) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:21:32 +0200 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> References: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4249565C.9010103@udo.edu> To be precise: Daylight saving time starts on April 3, 2005 in the US -- Uwe Schwiegelshohn Computer Engineering Institute University Dortmund 44221 Dortmund, Germany mailto:Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu http://www-ds.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de Phone: ++49 231 755 2634 Fax: ++49 231 755 3251 From maclaren at cct.lsu.edu Tue Mar 29 07:27:11 2005 From: maclaren at cct.lsu.edu (Jon MacLaren) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:27:11 -0600 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> References: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <9197616e6af7076a669a5f1b5405b1e9@cct.lsu.edu> Hi Stephen, No, it hasn't. We're one more hour out this week. Jon. On Mar 29, 2005, at 7:13 AM, Stephen Pickles wrote: > A call _is_ scheduled for today, as reported in the > notes of the last one. > > I'm unsure about the time - summer time started in the > UK on Sunday morning. Does anyone know if summer time > has started in the US yet? > > Stephen > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org >> [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Ramin Yahyapour >> Sent: 29 March 2005 14:00 >> To: sched-chairs at ggf.org >> Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG >> >> >> I cannot make the telecon call today. However, I also did not >> see a reminder for it. Therefore I am not sure whether there is >> one. >> >> As we just had one week between GGF13 and this telecon, there is >> not much progress to mention. >> However, the meeting minutes are already available on GridForge as >> well as the session slides have been uploaded. >> >> Ramin >> >> -- >> Dr.-Ing. Ramin Yahyapour | >> mailto:Ramin.Yahyapour at uni-dortmund.de >> Computer Engineering >> Institute | phone: +49 (231) 755-2735 >> University of Dortmund | mobil: +49 (179) 5261973 >> 44221 Dortmund / Germany | fax: +49 (231) 755-3251 >> >> > From stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk Tue Mar 29 07:33:01 2005 From: stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen Pickles) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:33:01 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <4249565C.9010103@udo.edu> Message-ID: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED4A1@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Thanks, Uwe. So the time for this call will be: 8am PST = 10am New Orleans = 5pm UK (BST=UTC+1) = 6pm Germany (UTC+2) = 1am Wed Tokyo I've got nothing special to raise, so I'll understand if people prefer to send in a quick note instead. Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org > [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Uwe Schwiegelshohn > Sent: 29 March 2005 14:22 > To: Stephen Pickles > Cc: sched-chairs at ggf.org > Subject: Re: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG > > > To be precise: Daylight saving time starts on April 3, 2005 in the US > -- > Uwe Schwiegelshohn > Computer Engineering Institute > University Dortmund > 44221 Dortmund, Germany > mailto:Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu > http://www-ds.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de > Phone: ++49 231 755 2634 > Fax: ++49 231 755 3251 > > From Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu Tue Mar 29 07:16:47 2005 From: Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu (Uwe Schwiegelshohn) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:16:47 +0200 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG In-Reply-To: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> References: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED49F@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4249553F.1080903@udo.edu> To my knowledge summer time will start later in the US. We had this problem repeatedly in previous years. Uwe -- Uwe Schwiegelshohn Computer Engineering Institute University Dortmund 44221 Dortmund, Germany mailto:Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu http://www-ds.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de Phone: ++49 231 755 2634 Fax: ++49 231 755 3251 From dejan.milojicic at hp.com Tue Mar 29 08:02:01 2005 From: dejan.milojicic at hp.com (Milojicic, Dejan S) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:02:01 -0800 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG Message-ID: Hi Steve and the rest of the Team, Nothing special in CDDLM-WG, we continued working as usual, with the idea to submit the last two specs before next GGF (actually much earlier than that). We still did not have the follow-on meeting, we'll have it next week. I am available for usual sched-chairs meeting, or you can pick up the previous text as status, just let me know. Neither do I have anything to raise. Thanks, Dejan. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org > [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Pickles > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:33 AM > To: sched-chairs at ggf.org > Subject: RE: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG > > Thanks, Uwe. > > So the time for this call will be: > > 8am PST > = 10am New Orleans > = 5pm UK (BST=UTC+1) > = 6pm Germany (UTC+2) > = 1am Wed Tokyo > > I've got nothing special to raise, so I'll understand if > people prefer to send in a quick note instead. > > Stephen > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org > > [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Uwe Schwiegelshohn > > Sent: 29 March 2005 14:22 > > To: Stephen Pickles > > Cc: sched-chairs at ggf.org > > Subject: Re: [sched-chairs] Status GSA-RG > > > > > > To be precise: Daylight saving time starts on April 3, 2005 > in the US > > -- > > Uwe Schwiegelshohn > > Computer Engineering Institute > > University Dortmund > > 44221 Dortmund, Germany > > mailto:Uwe.Schwiegelshohn at udo.edu > > http://www-ds.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de > > Phone: ++49 231 755 2634 > > Fax: ++49 231 755 3251 > > > > > > From stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk Tue Mar 29 11:42:59 2005 From: stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen Pickles) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:42:59 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] Status ACS In-Reply-To: <42494C66.9070108@labs.fujitsu.com> Message-ID: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D03ED4AF@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> Fukui-san, Thanks for the update. If you want to hold an interim face-to-face meeting with official GGF status, you should try to announce it on the ACS-WG mailing list well in advance. The guidelines say 4 weeks. Best regards, Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org > [mailto:owner-sched-chairs at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Keisuke > Fukui (On the road) > Sent: 29 March 2005 13:39 > To: sched-chairs at ggf.org > Subject: [sched-chairs] Status ACS > > > My apologies that I cannot make it for today's call. > Here is a update for the ACS status: > > - Not much progress since my report at GGF13 sched area meeting. > - We are to discuss the work schedule for creating wg > draft at GGF14 in June. We will have a tele-conference > on Mar 30 19:00 EST to discuss this. Details on acs-wg ML. > - We are also considering about the possibility of face-to-face > before GGF14, but it depends on our schedule. > > Regards, > -- > Keisuke Fukui, Fujitsu Limited > Email: kfukui at labs.fujitsu.com > PHONE: +81-44-754-2628 (044-754-2628) ext. 6227 > FJ COINS: 7112-6227 > > From stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk Tue Mar 29 11:57:32 2005 From: stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen Pickles) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:57:32 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] notes from SRM Area Meeting at GGF13 Message-ID: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D0648A3B@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> These are the notes from the SRM Area Meeting at GGF13. - Bill and Stephen ------------------ SRM Area Meeting Notes, 2005-03-15 (People (including us): 22) SRM Area Calls ============== - Will keep SRM calls - Current time is OK (but not so great for Tokyo) - Chairs would like a reminder email with an agenda + any announcements Proposed Changes to GGF Operating Model ======================================= - New "Compute" Area could be called "Scheduling" or "Execution" (but there are problems with these too.) - (also missing is "Accounting", but it's OK to be in "Management") - if you have ideas, please join the PROCESS-WG Roadmap / Milestones ==================== ACS: Plan to submit ACS specification to Editor around September (GGF15) (Application Archive Format & Application Repository Interface topics in a single document). This is an aggressive target. CDDLM: Two docs done with public comment Just submitted XML-based language spec to Editor Plan to submit Component Model by GGF14 Plan to submit Deployment APIs by GGF14 DRMAA: Plan to submit language independent doc by GGF14 (contains normative changes to current published DRMAA spec, which it will supersede) Plan to submit C bindings doc. by GGF15 Plan to submit Object oriented doc. by GGF14 GESA: Hibernating (Possibility of workshop to assess whether enough folks are interested in de-hibernating GESA.) GRAAP: Plan to resubmit WS-Agreement for Public Comment (2nd round) by GGF14. Then focus on negotiation (the real charter); no documents expected here before GGF16 GSA: Plan to submit Use Cases doc around GGF14 Plan to submit Requirements doc before GGF16 JSDL: Plan to submit JSDL doc (recommendations track) before GGF14 OGSA-BES (BOF): n/a RUS: Plan to submit RUS specification by GGF14 UR: Plan to resubmit (2nd time) combined doc to be out by GGF14. Production Grid Services is planning a workshop targeted at Usage Records at GGF15. Post-workshop, will work on Experiences doc; may have it by GGF16. WFM: n/a ------------- From stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk Tue Mar 29 11:38:53 2005 From: stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen Pickles) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:38:53 +0100 Subject: [sched-chairs] GGF SRM Area - Chairs Telecon Notes, 29 Mar 2005 Message-ID: <01869BAFDD08BC4DBCF7F669E4CB41D0648A38@dailymail.ds.man.ac.uk> GGF Sched Area - Chairs Telecon Notes, 29 Mar 2005 ================================================== Attendees (with '*'s): ---------------------- +Bill Nitzberg, Area Director *Stephen Pickles, Area Director +Keisuke Fukui, ACS-WG Thomas Studwell, ACS-WG Peter Ziu, ACS-WG *Hrabri Rajic, DRMAA-WG Andreas Haas, DRMAA-WG Wolfgang Ziegler, GRAAP-WG Jim Pruyne, GRAAP-WG Volker Sander, GRAAP-WG Jon MacLaren, GESA-WG Steven Newhouse, GESA-WG Steven Newhouse, RUS-WG Bill Horn, RUS-WG Rebekah Metz, UR-WG Stephen McGough, JSDL-WG Ali Anjomshoaa, JSDL-WG Darren Pulsipher, JSDL-WG *Dejan Milojicic, CDDLM-WG Takashi Kojo, CDDLM-WG +Ramin Yahyapour, GSA-RG +Uwe Schwiegelshohn, GSA-RG Jarek Nabrzyski, GSA-RG +Ewa Deelman, WFM-RG Jim Blythe, WFM-RG Miron Livny, WRM-RG ('+' == could not attend, but emailed status report) NB: --- The dates for GGF15 were confirmed at the GFSG meeting today: 2-6 October, 2005, Boston. Ths slides from the SRM Area meeting at GGF13 have been posted to the SRM page in GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/srm/document/Slides_from_SRM_Area_M eeting_GGF13/en/1 Status ------ ACS-WG -- report from Keisuke Fukui Will discuss the work schedule for creating wg draft for GGF14 at a tele-conference on Mar 30 19:00 EST. Possibility of a face-to-face before GGF 14. Details on acs-wg ML. CDDLM-WG -- Work continues towards submission of last two specs before GGF14 (actually much earlier than that). Follow-on meeting from GGF13 will happen next week. DRMAA-WG -- Will make minor changes to proposed spec. document and resubmit to the GGF Editor as a new document. This will supersede the current proposed recommendation. GESA-WG -- (hibernating...) There was a Grid Economies Workshop at GGF13, focusing mainly on business models. GRAAP-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org GSA-RG -- Status report from Rahmin Meeting minutes and session slides from GGF13 are available on GridForge. JSDL-WG -- nobody on call... PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org RUS-WG -- nobody on call... (SP: RUS-WG are revising the RUS specification, following the Jon MacLaren's presentation of John Ainsworth's implementation at GGF13. The revision will remove implementation details. A revised draft already exists. PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org UR-WG -- nobody on call... (SP: Laura McGinnis reports good progress on merger of natural language document into UR specification) PLEASE SEND STATUS TO sched-chairs at ggf.org WFM-RG -- nobody on call... WFM-RG will meet at GGF14. Topics for GGF14 are are being planned now on the RG list. A workflow workshop for GGF15 is also being planned. Upcoming Telecons ----------------- Every other Tuesday (skipping holiday weeks) 8a US Pacific (see www.worldtime.com to convert) Usually very short (less than 15 minutes long) Dial-in: 1-800-387-6159 & 1-303-248-0173 Conference ID: 7144404 Upcoming Telecons / or status reports due before: 12 Apr 2005 26 Apr 2005 There was no SRM telecon on 15 March 2005 due to GGF 13. If you can't make a telecon, please send us a note. If no chairs from your group will make a telecon, please also send a status update to everyone on the list (sched-chairs at gridforum.org). As always, please keep things moving forward --- if you need help setting up a separate mailing list or teleconference calls for your group, etc., don't hesitate to ask us. Thanks all! - Bill & Stephen GGF SRM Area Directors