[SAGA-RG] planning for OGF-30 interop demo

[Go Iwai]

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net> wrote:
> Quoting [Sylvain Reynaud] (Oct 05 2010):
>>
>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> How much time should we spend on each set of demos ?
>
> I think that 15 to 30 minutes would be sensible.  We do have enough
> session time scheduled though to go beyond that time limit, if
> required (see separate mail).

Thank you for clarification on this. Regarding on this, we, KEK would
give a demonstration at OGF30. We would much appreciate if you could
assign us to appropriate session 1-4. We are okay to show up either
session. For a moment we are planing to take a 30 mins for demo, that
can be arranged either longer or shorter though.

Regards,
Go


>
>
>> In our set of demos, we would like to show how we can use two
>> implementations of SAGA into the same application (SAGA-Cpp/JSAGA with
>> Python, and if technically possible Java-SAGA/JSAGA with Java).
>
> Sounds great! :-D
>
>
>
>
>> -> is there any URL where we can download the PySAGA wrapper for
>> SAGA-Cpp (even if it is not yet finished)?
>
> AFAIK,
> http://gforge.cs.vu.nl/gf/project/pysaga/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Fimpl%2F
> points to the svn repository containing the relevant sources.
>
>
>> -> can we use SAGA-Cpp Service Discovery API extension from Python ?
>
> The SD package is available, see
> https://svn.cct.lsu.edu/repos/saga/bindings/python/trunk/packages/sd
> I do not know how well tested that package is.  Hartmut, any input?
>
>
> Best, Andre.
>
>
>> Cheers,
>> Sylvain
>>
>>
>> Andre Merzky a écrit :
>> >Quoting [Sylvain Reynaud] (Aug 12 2010):
>> >
>> >>I can answer for JSAGA :
>> >>Job management : WMS, CREAM, (LCG-CE not achived)
>> >>Data management: SRM (DPM and dCache supported), LFC
>> >>Security: VOMS, MyProxy
>> >>
>> >>...but as I said in my previous mail, for the demo I think it is more
>> >>interesting to show that SAGA implementations can complement each other
>> >>rather than showing that they can do the same thing!
>> >>
>> >
>> >That is likely true.  Also, it seems unlikely that we get a set of
>> >resources which are accessible by all implementation groups.
>> >
>> >The most sensible (and also easiest) way forward would then be,
>> >IMHO, that each group is preparing their own set of demos, against
>> >the set of backends they use anyway, and we run one demo after the
>> >other, presentation style.
>> >
>> >For some backends we could also consider to set up a demo resource
>> >via AWS, bu preparing an image which runs globus, glite, etc.  But
>> >the effort for that is hart to estimate (for me).  Is there a
>> >need/use for that?  Any volonteers who could help with setup?
>> >
>> >Best, Andre.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Sylvain
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Cheers,
>> >>>Ole
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>  bes    (all?)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Infrastructures
>> >>>>  local institutions
>> >>>>  teragrid
>> >>>>  loni
>> >>>>  naregi
>> >>>>  What about European Grids?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Again, is there something I miss?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>PySAGA appears to be a great integration point, and SAGA-C++ intents
>> >>>>to support it very soon, too - but it is not sure that we manage to
>> >>>>do that before OGF30.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>A simple interop demo would be to submit the same job (NOT
>> >>>>/bin/date) to a set of resources in the various infrastructures
>> >>>>discovered via SD, from various tools.  A job submitted via python
>> >>>>for example should be monitorable from C++ tools, and output could
>> >>>>be reaped via PySAGA-over-JSAGA, etc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The above is just an initial input, to get the discussion and
>> >>>>planning started.  Please feed back, and complete the item lists
>> >>>>above.  Once we have those lists complete, we should be able to come
>> >>>>up with some more or less realistic scenario.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I'll mirror thiss list on our wiki at GridForge, so that we can edit
>> >>>>things in place.  Feel free to discuss on the list though, I'll try
>> >>>>to keep the thread in sytnc with the wiki.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Best, Andre.
>> >>>>
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