[SAGA-RG] planning for OGF-30 interop demo

[Sylvain Reynaud]

Hi Andre,

How much time should we spend on each set of demos ?

In our set of demos, we would like to show how we can use two 
implementations of SAGA into the same application (SAGA-Cpp/JSAGA with 
Python, and if technically possible Java-SAGA/JSAGA with Java).
-> is there any URL where we can download the PySAGA wrapper for 
SAGA-Cpp (even if it is not yet finished)?
-> can we use SAGA-Cpp Service Discovery API extension from Python ?

Cheers,
Sylvain


Andre Merzky a écrit :
> Quoting [Sylvain Reynaud] (Aug 12 2010):
>   
>> I can answer for JSAGA :
>> Job management : WMS, CREAM, (LCG-CE not achived)
>> Data management: SRM (DPM and dCache supported), LFC
>> Security: VOMS, MyProxy
>>
>> ...but as I said in my previous mail, for the demo I think it is more 
>> interesting to show that SAGA implementations can complement each other 
>> rather than showing that they can do the same thing!
>>     
>
> That is likely true.  Also, it seems unlikely that we get a set of
> resources which are accessible by all implementation groups.
>
> The most sensible (and also easiest) way forward would then be,
> IMHO, that each group is preparing their own set of demos, against
> the set of backends they use anyway, and we run one demo after the
> other, presentation style.
>
> For some backends we could also consider to set up a demo resource
> via AWS, bu preparing an image which runs globus, glite, etc.  But
> the effort for that is hart to estimate (for me).  Is there a
> need/use for that?  Any volonteers who could help with setup?
>
> Best, Andre.
>
>
>
>   
>> Cheers,
>> Sylvain
>>
>>     
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ole
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>>>>   bes    (all?)
>>>>
>>>> Infrastructures
>>>>   local institutions
>>>>   teragrid
>>>>   loni
>>>>   naregi
>>>>   What about European Grids?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again, is there something I miss?
>>>>
>>>> PySAGA appears to be a great integration point, and SAGA-C++ intents
>>>> to support it very soon, too - but it is not sure that we manage to
>>>> do that before OGF30.  
>>>>
>>>> A simple interop demo would be to submit the same job (NOT
>>>> /bin/date) to a set of resources in the various infrastructures
>>>> discovered via SD, from various tools.  A job submitted via python
>>>> for example should be monitorable from C++ tools, and output could
>>>> be reaped via PySAGA-over-JSAGA, etc.
>>>>
>>>> The above is just an initial input, to get the discussion and
>>>> planning started.  Please feed back, and complete the item lists
>>>> above.  Once we have those lists complete, we should be able to come
>>>> up with some more or less realistic scenario.
>>>>
>>>> I'll mirror thiss list on our wiki at GridForge, so that we can edit
>>>> things in place.  Feel free to discuss on the list though, I'll try
>>>> to keep the thread in sytnc with the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> Best, Andre.
>>>>
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