[SAGA-RG] SAGA Message API Extension
Andrei Hutanu
ahutanu at cct.lsu.edu
Thu Jan 18 17:10:25 CST 2007
>Use cases which do not require ordering should be happy with
>order preserving connections, too. Question now is: does
>the benefit of un-ordered implementations (simplier, smaller
>footprint) justify an attribute on API level?
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In my opinion yes.
>Or are there
>use cases which require non-ordered delivery for other
>reasons?
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Andrei
>Cheers, Andre.
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>Quoting [Andrei Hutanu] (Jan 18 2007):
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>>Hi,
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>>>>2) I see ordering is enforced, could that be an option?
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>>>I think ordering is *not* enforced, but I do wonder if it should be
>>>an option or a channel property (certainly semireliable will likely
>>>result in some reording whereas a TCP channel would enforce ordering
>>>of the messages for instance).
>>>
>>>This is a controversial topic in the HPC message passing community
>>>(whether msg. ordering is a good or bad-thing to enforce in at the
>>>hardware level).
>>>
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>>>
>>I was thinking the same (no strong feelings for either option or
>>property) but the text tells otherwise :
>>In 2.1 introduction :
>>In contrast, this message API extension guarantees that message blocks
>>of arbitrary size are delivered in order, and intact, without the need
>>for additional application level coordination or synchronization.
>>and
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>>then in 2.1.7 reliability corectness and ordering
>>The order of sent messages MUST be preserved by the implementation.
>>Global ordering is, however, not guaranteed to be preserved:
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>>Assume three endpoints A, B and C, all connected to each other. If A
>>sends two messages [a1, a2], in this order, it is guaranteed that both B
>>and C receive the messages in this order [a1, a2]. If, however, A sends
>>a message [a1] and then B sends a message [b1], C may receive the
>>messages in either order, [a1, b1] or [b1, a1].
>>
>>Andrei
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