[pgm-rg] Call for Discussion: Merging GUS-RG and PGM-RG

[Dietmar Erwin]

Dear all,
I support this idea. It makes vey much sense to combine the user 
requirements and the provider aspects.

Two suggestions to the charter:

G-4 add : (e.g. recommendations or standards drafts)
I know that the two terms are sometimes used as synonyms. However, the 
second formulation should emphasize one of the roles of GGF.

Milestones: Target dates (e.g. GGF xx) should be given for the 
milestones whereever possible.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen
With best regards

Dietmar Erwin

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Laura McGinnis schrieb:

> At GGF12 in Brussels, the possibility of merging the Grid User Services 
> and Production Grid Management research groups was
> raised. Since September, the chairs of the research groups and the area 
> directors have been discussing issues involved in merging. We would like 
> input from both research groups on the revised charter, posted below, 
> and on any items you think we may have overlooked.
> 
> There are some good reasons why merging these groups might be a good idea:
> 
> 1) There is a lot of overlap in topics being addressed by both RGs.
> 
> 2) Both groups would benefit from the influx of new perspectives and 
> members that the merger would bring.
> 
> 3) PGM has a strong history of providing workshops for GGF; GUS has 
> material that would add value when shared in a workshop setting (i.e. 
> strength in symbiosis).
> 
> 4) GUS has two documents that are near completing. PGM input would add 
> value to these documents as they are finalized and submitted to the 
> document process.
> 
> Please post comments, etc, to both mailing lists, so that both groups 
> can participate in the discussion.
> 
> thx
> LM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> PGM/GUS Merged Charter:
> 
> Purpose:
> 
> The purpose of this group is to bring together grid practitioners to 
> document experiences, identify best practice and develop informational 
> documents. These documents are offered as suggested guides to 
> organizations moving a grid to the persistent level. This group also 
> explores new paradigms in supporting grids that aspire to become large 
> scale grids with a large user/application base, while not excluding the 
> small grid efforts. In addition, this forum can be used to discuss 
> problems and concerns that are likely to be encountered, technical as 
> well as non-technical, when moving grid testbeds to production 
> environments. This group should have an ongoing presence in GGF, serving 
> a SIG/UG purpose in the grid community.
> 
> Goals:
> 
> G-1) Identify technical and non-technical issues that need to be 
> addressed for a production grid installation to be successful.
> G-2) Develop "common practices" documents for critical issues as they 
> are identified.
> G-3) Facilitate opportunities for grid users and practitioners to share 
> experiences in bringing grids to production.
> G-4) Spin off Working Groups when the need for detailed GGF documents 
> (e.g. recommendations) is identified.
> 
> Milestones:
> 
> M-1) Grid Constitution Document - spin off WG to complete
> M-2) PGM Survey
> M-3) Tools Document - to be completed bu current team (had been 
> submitted to GGF Editor)
> M-4) Trouble Ticket Document - revaluate interest, identify authors for 
> this document; spin off WG if warranted
> M-5) Workshops
> 
> Chairs: David Wallom, University of Bristol, UK
>         Judith Utley, USA
>         Laura McGinnis, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, USA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Laura F. McGinnis
> Project Coordinator: Data & Information Resource Services
> Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center        4400 Fifth Avenue, # 409D       
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> email: lfm at psc.edu                      voice: 412-268-5642             
> fax: 412-268-5832
> 

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