[Pgi-wg] PGI-Call 2010-05-10 notes

Johannes Watzl watzl at nm.ifi.lmu.de
Wed May 12 08:34:09 CDT 2010


Participants:
Etienne, Mark, Emannouil, Johannes, Luigi, Morris, Massimo Sgaravatto,
Michaela Lechner, Steve Crouch, Aleksandr, Oxana


Agenda:

(a)
Clarify "unclear" requirements among us and make a quick "yes/no" assessment
whether we agree or not.

(b)
Next telcon

(c)
Shift of telcon of Thursday

(d)
AOB

continue with unclear requirements

121:
Etienne: payload related to anything an activity requires from computing
resource

Morris:
maybe ignoring the payload term

Etienne:
describing what is wrong inside the computing resource

Morris:
activity as a container

reformulating

Steve:
understand what he is trying to say

Etienne:
it is not the application output, it's the app status

Steve:
define what payload menas here

Morris, Etienne:
application script or pilot job

timeout

Morris:
somebody voting for "no"?

nobody - so "yes"

###

122:
Morris:
rephrasing

somebody "no"?

nobody - so "yes"

###

123, 124:
rephrasing, including example

Emannouil:
123, 124 redundant?!

Morris:
optional

still unclear after 10 min

###

125:
changed to "yes"

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126:
changed to "no"

###

128:
changed to "yes"

###


133:
Oxana:
is it really should?

rephrasing

Michaela:
state model should enable the data staging
more than a recommendation

Morris:
reformulated it

changed to "no"

###

137:
Etienne:
problem is about hold points


Morris:
holdpoints are not directly affected by the application

Etienne:
not using the word "application" but "activity"

Morris:
rephrasing

clear for everybody?
somebody saying "no"?

changed to "yes"

###

138:
changed to "no"

###

139:
Etienne:
if "no" for 138, this one should be "no" too

changed to "no"

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140:
changed to "no"

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141:

Mark:
cannot vote "yes" without further explanation

Morris:
rephrasing

Etienne:
exclude ssh from requirements

changed to "no"

###

142:
Mark:
implementation detail
so "no"

changed to "no"

###

146:
Etienne:
maybe discuss the next ones before and then mark this as duplicate

Oxana:
would vote "yes" if there is "ensure"

Etienne:
remove "e.g. logs"

changed to "yes"

###

152:
Mark:
need to take into account the evolutionary aspects

Morris:
clear for me

Oxana:
change "must" to "should"

Morris:
clear for everybody?
somebody saying "no"?

changed to "yes"

###

153:
Morris:
seems to be clear now?!

still unclear after 10 min

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155:
Morris, Oxana, Mark, Etienne:
rephrasing

changed to "no"

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156:
changed to "yes"

###

closed

next meeting:
next week Thrusday usual time


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