[Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization viaexistingspecifications

[Morris Riedel]

Hi PGI team,


  in parallel to our technical discussions, I think it would be a great
benefit to get statements on the WIKI as mentioned today in the TelCon about
pro/contras:


>-http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.pgi-wg/wiki/GES?_m
es
>-sage=1242216401105


@Andrew: Clearly the history of the wiki (that I can't change in respond to
"hopefully unintentially removed") points to no edits from your side - I
gave you now all the permissions possible in GridForge - so if this problem
was maybe related to this it should be gone now. If you like to provide your
views - please feel free to add, I really think it's worth adding them to
acknowledge different view points that might lead to a wise decision in this
context.


Just a suggestion,
Morris 




>------Original Message-----
>-From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
>-Morris Riedel
>-Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:11 PM
>-To: 'Andrew Grimshaw'; 'Steven Newhouse'; 'Etienne Urbah'
>-Cc: pgi-wg at ogf.org; edges-na3 at mail.edges-grid.eu; lodygens at lal.in2p3.fr
>-Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization
viaexistingspecifications
>-
>-Hey PGI team,
>-
>-
>-  we are running in the pro/contra discussions again and again as it looks
like...
>-consuming our valuable time fosterings positions w/o clear understanding
of the
>-bigger picture.
>-
>-
>-I suggest we clearly collect all statements related to pro/contra new /
old specs
>-inside the following wiki page tables:
>-
>-
>-http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.pgi-wg/wiki/GES?_m
es
>-sage=1242216401105
>-
>-
>-Let's try to collect all statements and positions and have an objective
whole view on
>-all of them together by filling out this page.
>-
>-
>-I hope this also supports the telcon so thanks for adding your views to
the tables.
>-
>-
>-Your co-chair,
>-Morris
>-
>-
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>->------Original Message-----
>->-From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
>->Of -Andrew Grimshaw
>->-Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:48 PM
>->-To: 'Steven Newhouse'; 'Etienne Urbah'; 'Andrew GRIMSHAW'
>->-Cc: pgi-wg at ogf.org; edges-na3 at mail.edges-grid.eu;
>->lodygens at lal.in2p3.fr
>->-Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization
>-viaexistingspecifications
>->-
>->-All,
>->-The standard is the standard.
>->-
>->-That said what I was trying to point out was
>->-	1) That with minor updates to the BES spec, say to a 1.1 version we
>->-could accommodate many of the requirements in the GES document
>->-	2) That in fact the authors of the BES anticipated many of these
>->-same issues but that they were weeded out.
>->-
>->-As another note since it was perhaps not clear. I was NOT suggesting
>->that -sub-states become part of a new BES 1.1 specification - that
"pending"
>->-perhaps should, and that we PROFILE the substates.
>->-
>->-Talk to you all in 130 minutes.
>->-
>->-A
>->-
>->-> -----Original Message-----
>->-> From: Steven Newhouse [mailto:Steven.Newhouse at cern.ch]
>->-> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:08 AM
>->-> To: Etienne Urbah; Andrew GRIMSHAW
>->-> Cc: pgi-wg at ogf.org; edges-na3 at mail.edges-grid.eu;
>->-> lodygens at lal.in2p3.fr
>->-> Subject: RE: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization via
>->-> existingspecifications
>->->
>->->
>->-> > -  For BES, official recommendation GDF.108 does NOT contain the
>->-> > 'Running:Stage-in' and 'Running:Stage-out' states.
>->-> >
>->-> >     So we have to decide which basis we take for BES :
>->-> >
>->-> >     - Either OFFICIAL recommendation GDF.108, which I suppose is
>->-> > the one for which you mention existing implementations.
>->->
>->-> This should be the basis for any further work. Andrew circulated
>->-> earlier versions just to show you relevant functions that were
>->-> discussed that did not make it into the final version.
>->->
>->-> Steven
>->-
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