[Pgi-wg] Next teleconference: tomorrow, wednesday july 15th

[David Wallom]

HI Laurence and Andrew,

I really would suggest that we make what is effectively  Basic Information
Service. We have experience of trying to publish using glue based XML as
metadata on the MS HPC-BP service and it ended up creating some performance
issues. After building a separate service we also realised that as Laurence
suggested this same service can be used for different types of resources.

David


On 14/07/2009 20:21, "Laurence Field" <Laurence.Field at cern.ch> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> 
> The most important aspects of GLUE2 for this activity is the GLUE
> execution environment and GLUE application environment. It describes the
> hardware and software properties of the cluster respectively and the Job
> Description should mirror this information.
> 
> Currently, this information is propagated around the Grid infrastructure
> via a parallel mechanism.  Whether this needs to be part of BES or if
> there is an information service which must accompany BES is a matter for
> debate. Within the current EGEE/WLCG infrastructure there are no plans
> for the foreseeable future to move away from the current mechanism, the
> need to expose this information via BES is not a requirement for it to
> be deployed on the infrastructure.
> 
> One of the problems with getting the information from BES is that this
> is then a service specific mechanism and other services such as the SRM,
> etc. will have a different method. Information system interoperation is
> indeed problem which we must solve but we need to deal with things in
> manageable chunks. I would consider this problem to be a general Grid
> interoperability problem rather than something specific to BES so we
> should try not get too distracted from the good progress that has been
> made so far.  The definition of GLUE 2.0 has solved  more than half of
> the information system interoperability problem. As the information
> content is standardized, moving it around and translating from one data
> format to another is just a technical plumbing exercise. Having
> something standardized here would certainly help but it is probably out
> of scope for the BES discussion.
> 
> Anyway, my personal opinion on the information system standards is that
> a good one already exists,  X.500  :)
> 
> Laurence
> 
> 
> Andrew Grimshaw wrote:
>> Moreno,
>> Once we figure out what we need I can start the process to get a new draft
>> of BES out.
>> 
>> Besides the state model - where we seem to have reached a consensus, and the
>> "vector" operations, there is also the issue of moving towards GLUE2 as the
>> attribute schema which has been discussed several times. We will need to be
>> specific as to what part of GLUE2, and how to get the info from endpoints
>> (we could keep the current mechanism).
>> 
>> Finally, there is JSDL. It would be good if we could synchronize the
>> transition to GLUE2 with the JSDL group. I am cc'ing the JSDL group as they
>> may be able to better answer the question of JSDL and GLUE2 congruence (if
>> there are any such plans.)
>> 
>> A
>> 
>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Moreno Marzolla
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:40 AM
>>> To: pgi-wg at ogf.org
>>> Subject: [Pgi-wg] Next teleconference: tomorrow, wednesday july 15th
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> the next PGI teleconference will be held tomorrow july 15th
>>> at 16:00 CET (duration: 1 hour).
>>> 
>>> Call-in details as follow:
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>>> The agenda is similar to the last call (in particular, tomorrow I would
>>> like that we spend a few minutes on a status update of the security
>>> discussion)
>>> 
>>> 1) State model
>>> 
>>> 2) Status update on security
>>> 
>>> 3) AOB
>>> 
>>> Feel free to propose additional topics for discussion.
>>> 
>>> Moreno.
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