[ogsa-wg] [WFM-RG] Workflow Interoperability and Sharing Survey for WFM-RG

[Ian Taylor]

Hello all,

     I wanted to support Andrew's comments here. We are of course  
aware of the good work achieved on interoperability by WfMC.   
However, such an approach is aimed primarily at B2B interactions and  
their standards for interoperability were released around 9 years  
ago.  If the subject was closed, then the eScience community would  
have adopted this approach and we would indeed have no need for  
further debate (and indeed, perhaps we should consider adopting these  
standards ...).  However, this is generally not the case in eScience  
workflow and it would be very useful to have the community feedback  
on their experiences with WfMC or other.  There are a number of  
interesting workflow projects around in the community and recently  
there has been activity in the area of workflow sharing (e.g.  
myExperiment and others) for the scientific workflow community rather  
than business community.  Whether the WfMC B2B is relevant here it a  
matter for discussion.

     The aim of the questionnaire is is to get people motivated in  
discussing these issues, which we hope might lead to a research  
document that will include a review of relevant standards. We hope  
that many will take part in this discussion and we also hope that  
some might even contribute to the document :) Your help is appreciated.

cheers,

Ian

On 21 Feb 2008, at 13:04, Andrew Harrison wrote:

> The questionnaire is not suggesting that the issues are new. But they
> have not been solved in eScience, which is why they are worth
> addressing again.
>
> As you will see from the background paragraph in the email, and on the
> web form, we are interested in solutions and approaches that may
> actually be adopted by existing workflow tools. We are also interested
> in feedback from the community as these people work with existing
> tools, and may not have input into such organizations as the WfMC.
>
> Adrian Toth gave a presentation at the WFM-RG session at OGF20 which
> usefully described the WfMC approach. This represents just one
> approach which gravitates towards particular technologies that are not
> particularly supported by existing tools in eScience. We therefore
> consider it is worth eliciting opinions that may open up other avenues
> of thought.
>
> We are also interested in generating discussion in this area, so it's
> obviously working.
>
> cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 Feb 2008, at 11:14, Jinjun Chen wrote:
>
>> Workflow interoperability and sharing are not a new topic. They have
>> already been there since 1993 when WfMC was established. I would
>> like to suggest that we pay more attention to what have been done by
>> WfMC.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Jinjun
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/08, A S McGough <asm at doc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I've been asked to circulate this on behalf of the WFM-RG. Please
>> consider replying as this will hopefully feed into future OGSA as
>> well as WFM-RG work.
>>
>> steve..
>>
>>
>> Dear Researcher,
>>
>>
>> As part of the work of the OGF Workflow Management Research Group,
>> we are gathering user scenarios and experiences on workflow
>> interoperability and sharing, which we intend will lead into a
>> research document.  Andrew Harrison (group secretary) has created an
>> on-line form to gather information for such a research group
>> document, which can be found here:
>>
>>
>> http://bender.astro.cf.ac.uk/wfmrg/
>>
>>
>> We would appreciate your help in  taking the time to answer these
>> questions and provide us with your opinions on these topics. As a
>> background:
>>
>>
>> There are a number of existing workflow tools and systems used by
>> different projects in the eScience community. Many of these projects
>> have a long history of activity and have, as a result, developed
>> specialist knowledge in certain domains as well as particular
>> capabilities that support the scenarios the project has been
>> addressing. The relative maturity of these projects means that
>> imposing standards which would disrupt their development or diminish
>> the availability of their specialisms could be counter-productive.
>> At OGF20 and OGF21, the Workflow Management Research Group (WFM-RG)
>> focussed on gathering and disseminating workflow sharing and
>> interoperability scenarios and requirements in an attempt to begin
>> developing standards and mechanisms that allow diverse workflow
>> systems to interoperate without undermining their individual
>> strengths or development procedures. This document is a request for
>> input into that process. It will not take long to complete. We would
>> like to thank all those in advance who contribute.
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Ian and Ewa
>>
>> Lecturer, School of Computer Science, Cardiff.
>> Assistant Professor, Dept. Computer Science and CCT, LSU.
>> www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user/I.J.Taylor/ & www.p2pgridbook.com
>> Tel: +44-781110 3142
>>
>>
>>
>>
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