[ogsa-wg] Workflow Interoperability and Sharing Survey for WFM-RG

[Omer F Rana]

Hi Adrian, 

Thanks for the slides. This discussion may be off topic for this WG. However,
since these slides were presented at an OGSA WG meeting -- just some comments. 
There are a number of workflow engines out there in the scientific domain -- 
very few of these actually support the BPEL standard. Not sure why this is. 

I certainly agree with your comments that something that could be used to define 
abstract workflows would be useful -- that could map into these existing workflow 
description schemes. Would certainly be useful to evaluate whether XPDL can map into
the representation schemes used by existing workflow engines -- such as Triana, Taverna, 
Kepler, Pegasus etc.  Certainly an interesting discussion to pursue. 

regards
Omer

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:28:16PM +0100, Adrian Toth wrote:
> Omer F. Rana írta:
> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Could I have a copy of this by any chance?
> Yes, I gave them to Hiro and Andreas, and they uploaded to the OGSA-WG 
> site, that is avaible at this link:
> http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc14511?nav=1
> 
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> >
> > regards
> > Omer
> >
> > Adrian Toth wrote:
> >> Jinjun Chen írta:
> >>> Workflow interoperability and sharing are not a new topic. They have 
> >>> already been there since 1993 when WfMC was established. I would 
> >>> like to suggest that we pay more attention to what have been done by 
> >>> WfMC.
> >>>  
> >> I agree with you.
> >> I held a presentation on the OGF'20 in Manchester, that is introduced 
> >> the worklow interoperability levels and technics that had already 
> >> defined in the WfMC documents...
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Adrian Toth, University of Miskolc
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Jinjun
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/21/08, *A S McGough* <asm at doc.ic.ac.uk 
> >>> <mailto:asm at doc.ic.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Dear All,
> >>>
> >>>     I've been asked to circulate this on behalf of the WFM-RG. Please
> >>>     consider replying as this will hopefully feed into future OGSA as
> >>>     well as WFM-RG work.
> >>>
> >>>     steve..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Dear Researcher,
> >>>
> >>>          As part of the work of the OGF Workflow Management Research
> >>>     Group, we are gathering user scenarios and experiences on
> >>>     workflow interoperability and sharing, which we intend will lead
> >>>     into a research document.  Andrew Harrison (group secretary) has
> >>>     created an on-line form to gather information for such a research
> >>>     group document, which can be found here:
> >>>
> >>>          _http://bender.astro.cf.ac.uk/wfmrg/_
> >>>
> >>>          We would appreciate your help in  taking the time to answer 
> >>> these
> >>>     questions and provide us with your opinions on these topics. As a
> >>>     background:
> >>>
> >>>          There are a number of existing workflow tools and systems 
> >>> used by
> >>>     different projects in the eScience community. Many of these
> >>>     projects have a long history of activity and have, as a result,
> >>>     developed specialist knowledge in certain domains as well as
> >>>     particular capabilities that support the scenarios the project
> >>>     has been addressing. The relative maturity of these projects
> >>>     means that imposing standards which would disrupt their
> >>>     development or diminish the availability of their specialisms
> >>>     could be counter-productive. At OGF20 and OGF21, the Workflow
> >>>     Management Research Group (WFM-RG) focussed on gathering and
> >>>     disseminating workflow sharing and interoperability scenarios and
> >>>     requirements in an attempt to begin developing standards and
> >>>     mechanisms that allow diverse workflow systems to interoperate
> >>>     without undermining their individual strengths or development
> >>>     procedures. This document is a request for input into that
> >>>     process. It will not take long to complete. We would like to
> >>>     thank all those in advance who contribute.
> >>>
> >>>          All the best,
> >>>
> >>>          Ian and Ewa
> >>>
> >>>     Lecturer, School of Computer Science, Cardiff.
> >>>     Assistant Professor, Dept. Computer Science and CCT, LSU.
> >>>     www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user/I.J.Taylor/
> >>>     <http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user/I.J.Taylor/> & www.p2pgridbook.com
> >>>     <http://www.p2pgridbook.com/>
> >>>     Tel: +44-781110 3142
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     
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