[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Oct. 2nd call
Hiro Kishimoto
hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com
Fri Sep 29 04:16:34 CDT 2006
Hi all,
Since my proposed agenda may give rise to misunderstandings,
let me make myself clear:
> 4) Removal of container model from BES spec appendix
should read
'Clarify OGSA request to include "Container Model" as BES Appendix'.
OGSA-BES-WG *is* sole authority of BES-spec and OGSA-WG
respects that. We have had discussions in the past and an understanding
that this appendix would be included. I would like to discuss the issues
and identify a mutually agreeable way forward.
I'd like to encourage both OGSA and BES members to attend this part of
the call.
Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto
Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Oct. 2nd
> Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT).
>
> The dial-in number for Monday;
> US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or
> +1 408 9616509 (San Jose)
> UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London)
> Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo)
> PIN: 4371991
> See more information:
> - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
>
> Screen share service will be provided.
> URL: http://ogsa.glance.net
> Session key: 1002
> See more explanation:
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584?nav=1
>
> 1) Early discussion (20 min)
> Note taker assignment
> Roll call
> Telecon minutes approval (Sept. 25)
> - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13903?nav=1
> Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
> Agenda bashing
>
> 2) Information/data modeling Xquery (Ellen, 30 min)
>
> Minutes from GGF18:
>> generate 3 to 5 queries that might be issued; would like to use as a
> > starter set for usefulness of XML document and to show how it would
> > look like in XQuery.
>
> 3) Separation of service/info model (Tom, 30 min)
>
> Minutes form Sept. 25:
>> - Another open issue is how does the Information Model work (in
>> context of DMTF) comes together with the EGA reference model
>> (dags).
>> - A possible viewpoint is that the EGA Reference Model is the
>> overarching model:
>> - With specific/concrete stuff mapping to CIM
>> - But some more abstract stuff do not map to CIM easily
>> - There is some more abstract work in the SMIS space and this
>> will end up at some point in DMTF schema
>> - So the DMTF might be an eventual consumer for some of this work
>>
>
> Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
> on why the current separation of service/info model may
> not be quite right.
>
> 4) Removal of container model from BES spec appendix (Ellen, 10 min)
>
> Ellen's email:
>> The intent of this appendix is to provide the container model as an
>> 'informational' appendix so it can be submitted to DMTF as concrete
>> proposal for inclusion in the DMTF CIM and a context for why a container
>> model is necessary.
>>
>> The inclusion of the model in the BES spec does not imply that OGSA must
>> implement this CIM container model to implement BES; it is merely an
>> abstraction for a general container model where BES can provide context
>> for the need and implementation of a specific container model. If this
>> point doesn't come across in the appendix text, I have no problem
>> modifying the text.
>
> 5) Wrap up (10 min)
> AOB
>
> <*NEXT CALL*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477?nav=1
>
> Oct. 5 (Thu): Security, secure channel profile review
> Oct. 9 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
> Oct. 12 (Thu): <No call?>
> Oct. 16 (Mon): Information/data modeling
> Oct. 19 (Thu): Security, secure channel profile review
> Oct. 23 (Mon): EGA reference model, OGSA roadmap
>
> <*ACTION ITEMS*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569?nav=1
>
> > From Sept. 25 call.
> AI-0925a: Hiro to setup wiki page with names of people who have
> expressed interest in the security team
> AI-092625b: Jem to pull definitions together and produce a new
> merged first draft.
> - Send a mail to the ogsa list about this work
> - Set Oct. 9 as the target for the first Glossary draft
> AI-0925c: Hiro to ask Alan Clark to ask EGA TC member who want to
> contribute to join the OGSA list and this convergence work. -
> Members may have changed but organizations have not
> AI-0925d: Paul Strong to send EGA Glossary MS-Word file to Jem
> Treadwell
> AI-0925e: Hiro to talk with Andrew Grimshaw and Mark Morgan and
> bring back a concrete proposal for the HPC Profile use
> case as a convergence candidate.
> AI-0925f: Hiro to talk with Ellen Stokes and add more items in DMTF
> register in the context of this convergence work
> AI-0925g: Tom will send a note to the list (to: Ellen S and Fred M)
> on why the current separation of service/info model may
> not be quite right.
>
> > From Sept. 21 call.
> AI-0921b: Security members to discuss the BoF proposal(s) further
> - For example, one outcome could be some standards
> activity to mirror CAOPS activities and tie-in to OGSA
> AI-0921c: Dave S (as Standards VP) to talk to the next
> Security AD (when one is selected) about the Security Area
> task list.
> AI-0921d: Dave S to collect additional material in order to identify
> security issues better.
> - (AI-0921e is an issue instance)
> AI-0921i: Dave S to provide an agenda for the next security call.
> - Draft agenda items for Oct. 5th:
> - What needs to be done to achieve simple interop
> generally and to bootstrap more
> - Profile to get authentication information from a
> secure channel for authentication
> - Profile for other methods to get authentication
> informatin for authorization
>
> > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
> AI-0915a: (A Savva, S McGough): Set up a telephone conference to
> collect workflow (BPEL) experience
> AI-0915b: Ellen to check the status of the items on the
> DMTF work register: report which have been done, and what
> DMTF is doing for the rest.
> AI-0915c: Ellen to propose new text to update the DMTF register
> AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
> AI-0915e: Hiro to talk with OGF Editor to start an errata process
>
> > From Sept. 14 OGSA F2F
> AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
> presented into the scenarios document
> AI-0914f (Fred Brisard and Hiro Kishimoto): Fix the location of the
> next F2F and inform the group vial the mailing list
>
> > From GGF18 EMS session (Sept. 13)
> AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
> AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
> (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
> extension.)
> AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this “terminate”
> method of activity interface.
> AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
> AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
> AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
> "ActivityExecutionCandidate."
>
> > From Sept. 7 call
> AI-0907b: Takuya will search for an external reliable source of
> strong (or deprecated) ciphers to reference.
> AI-0907c: Andreas will revise the explanatory text and send the new
> version to Takuya.
> AI-0907d: Takuya will update the documents and issue a final call
> on the list. (Probably during GGF18.)
>
> > From Aug. 31 call
> AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
> scenario.
> AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
> Scenarios document
>
> > From Aug. 17 call
> AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
> Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
> start a discussion on how they handle data:
> - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
> - how transfers are modeled
> - how files are advertised
> - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
> (Due Oct. 9)
>
> > From Aug. 3 call
> AI-0803e: Jun will provide an example of the CDL mechanism and why
> using ID/IDREF is not a good idea.
> AI-0803f: Jun will update the CDL document to remove the Environment
> variables
>
> > From July 20 F2F
> - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
> contribute use cases.
> - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
> Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
>
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